Exposing The Witch Hunt Of LaDonna Humphrey: Interview With Dennis McCaslin

Sometimes there are other people that gets involved in these things that know more than I do.

Today we're going to talk to a man that has covered not only the case of Donald Humphrey versus Anthony Christopher, but also has had dealings with other people like the likes of Patty Rush, and had extensive dealings with Anthony Christopher.

What will he say?

Well, anything he say, Crawber, anything.

I have been telling you guys for months, but we're about to find out.

This is We're Not Afraid, the podcast that exposes the truth among all the lies.

I am your host, David McLam.

You're listening to Exposing the Witch Hunt of La Donna Humphrey, episode 12, interview with Dennis McCaslin.

What's going on, everybody?

And welcome to another episode of We Are Not Afraid.

All right, just to give you a slight introduction, Dennis McCaslin is the editor and owner of Today at Fort Smith newspaper.

You will hear in this interview that he has been through some things with Anthony Christopher as well as Patty Rush.

We talk in depth about those things.

So I want you to pay attention to what he has to say, listen to see if it corroborates anything I have been telling you over these last several months.

And then at the end, I will be back to sum up the episode and let you know what comes next.

So here is the interview with Dennis McCaslin.

Hey, Dennis, thank you for coming on the show and talking to me today.

I do appreciate it.

Thank you, David.

I appreciate the opportunity.

So being that you're close to some of this stuff or not all of it that's going around about ladonna, I wanted to talk to you today to see what your side of it is.

As you know that there is a hit piece out on her right now from a podcast called Pretend Everybody, from Patty Rush so far to Anthony Christopher, who will be the next episode.

Depending on what people's listening to, this has come out and told lies on ladonna.

My first question for you is, what do you know of the situation when it comes to Patty Rush?

Now, I had to have.

I had to heavily every one of them, but she was providing me with good content.

I think at the time it hurt ladonna's figure, but ladonna stepped aside.

Patty wrote for me for another couple of months and I get a call from a local police department one day and this officer says, hey, Dennis, what's going on with Patty Rush?

Rotten for your publication?

And I told him, I said, well, you know, she's written some stories for me and she's done some different stuff and he said, well, she's down at police station, and she's waving all this credentials around with your name on it the Today in Portsmouth.

And she's demanding know about this case and that case and this case and that case.

And it's.

It was cases that she and I hadn't even discussed.

And at that point, I got in touch with Patty and I told her, I asked her, first of all, I never issued her any credentials.

And second, you know, that was the first concern.

The second concern was, why are you down at the police station, you know, demanding to know this stuff on cases you and I haven't even talked about?

Well, I'm just.

Her response as well.

I'm just trying to get information for cases that I want to write about for your publication and everything else.

Now, the police officer who I knew told me that she was being very aggressive and stuff.

And at that time, I told her, I said, look, this is not going to work for me.

I'm gonna have to ask.

I'm just not gonna use your stuff anymore.

We're done.

Period.

And that was, at that point was the end of that part of the relationship between me and Patty.

I don't know if you've heard the podcast or not, but they're pretty much accusing ladonna of everything, starting with what you just said.

But I have heard Patty Rush, with her own mouth, pretty much say that she pretty much stole Melissa.

The Melissa Wood case, that she was working on the case first, and then Ladonna came along, and they're called.

They're saying it's because she wants to be famous.

Can you tell us how long you know that ladonna's been on the case?

And what does Patty Rush have to do with the Melissa Wood case?

Well, I know that Patty.

Excuse me, I know that Ladonna.

I've known her for over 16, 17 years, and I know for a fact that she's very, very involved in the case that she worked on.

She was very involved in The Morgan Nick, Ms.

Parent.

There was another young lady that went.

That was murdered up in Northwest Arkansas that she'd written numerous things about for me and the Missy Witt case.

She has long been involved in the Missy Wick case.

Her only concern from the beginning, as far as I'm concerned, was to find out who killed Ms.

Witt and cooperate with police officers in an effort to solve the case.

Okay, so they are using clips from my podcast, Extinguished, that I co host with ladonna.

Ladonna and I.

One of the episodes which was episode 9 and 10.

We actually did discuss the Melissa Witt case, and part of what Patty Rush is saying was they did not use the whole clip.

He cut the clip to suit his purpose.

I will expose the whole clip.

But.

But she was talking about Charlie Ray Vines and she was stating that she had correspondence with him and that LaDonna was swearing that she had all these letters, but did not.

I have found out that the Fort Smith Police Department does have these letters, but the way she was making it sound was that they had totally kicked out the idea that Charlie Ray Vines had did it because of the fact that, I guess whatever reason that she was saying that she just wanted to exclude him, she liked him, or whatever the case was.

Do you know anything about that?

That she was absolutely certain that Charlie Ray Valens had killed Missy Wood or was involved in the fight.

She gave me some wild theory about Charlie Ray Downs dad working in a funeral home.

And there was some accusations of abuse, of course, corpses and all kinds of stuff.

But she told me from day one, when I first started talking to her, that Charlie Red Vines had killed Missy Whip and that she knew it for a fact, and nothing I could say or nothing La Donna could say could convince her otherwise.

Well, the theories that she used for that was preponderous.

She was basing her claim based on the fact that Charlie Ray Vines liked to play pool.

He carried a pool cue with him.

So they combined pool with bowling, which is where, as you know, Elizabeth was to meet her mother at the bowling alley to go play pool.

Now, I don't know, maybe he did carry pool cue, but whenever I want to go play pool, a bowling alley is not the first place I would go.

But that was the theory in which she was using.

If they would have played that whole entire clip that they took from my podcast, they would have heard ladonna actually say and have me ask her, why did they exclude Charlie Ray Vines?

The police had extensively interviewed him and said that they, based on the interviews, what they talked to him about in the whole nine, that he was excluded because nothing pointed to him as being the killer of Melissa Witt.

Now, she tried to make herself look good by saying that her and Charlie had correspondence, but it made her look dumb, in my opinion, because the fact that the only letter that Javier labor read was one where Charlie Ray Vines pretty much said, I'm not discussing my case with you, anybody, because of the fact that people twist my words, don't contact me again.

Ladonna had been in contact with Charlie, some kind of Writing in prison or she had told me that she did.

I have carried several stories about the Missy whit case.

Some LaDonna's written, some I've written.

We have covered that case extensively since I have been running my.

My website and that we started this website in 2017.

So I don't know if you know any of this, but I'll ask you because it came up on her episode, which sounded crazy.

I didn't write it all down, but she went into some rant about Ladonna and her was talking one time on a text and it sounded like something a crazy person would say, but she went into something about the muffin man and twats with guns and supposedly Donna's writing all of this.

Do you know anything about this Muffin man situation?

I don't know anything about the Muffin man situation.

I do.

Ladonna mentioned that to me.

But you know this.

After I parted ways with Patty, I started getting all these weird text messages and all these emails and everything else that were essentially dead end leads on any kind of cases.

I was putting cold cases that I was talking about on my Facebook page or on my website, which has Facebook page leads to it.

There was at least three occasions that I was sent anonymous leads and either went places or made phone calls or did this or did that, and they turned out to be nothing.

I actually drove over to a sister city of Port Smith, Van Buren one day because they told me that the person that knew all about this Missy Witt case lived at a certain address in Van Buren.

I drove over there and it was a vacant lot.

Okay, that was the first one.

I started getting emails from someone that identified themselves as Apple Annie.

Apple Annie was the name they identified by.

They said that they didn't want to give me their real name.

And I went through a series of messages with this Appalachian.

Basically, Apple Annie was saying that she was getting leads from people, homeless people who live down by the river.

And I caught on pretty quick that this was just another excuse my language bullshit line that I was being fed.

But I tried to play it out to see if I could get more information or catch it.

It went from Appalani had this information and wanted to help me.

2Appalani was getting information from the homeless people.

2Appalany was driving her van down to the river and having sex with the homeless people in order to get this information to Annie.

Appalani was paraplegic and they were taking advantage of her.

I mean, it just got crazier and crazier.

I can't say this positively, but I can say that from the way the emails were written and some of the misspelled words and some of the stuff like that, I strongly suspect that I know who Apple Annie was, and I think it was someone who used to write for my publication.

I mean, I'll come right out and say it.

I.

I felt at the time that Appalane was Patty Rush.

And so it doesn't surprise me that Muffin Man, Apple Annie, there's been other names that have been kicked out there, simplistic names.

So it wouldn't surprise me at all if Patty was involved with this Muffin man stuff.

So I ask you this.

In your opinion, do you feel that Patty Rush has a vendetta or something against ladonna to go after her?

And if so, why is that?

I think absolutely, and I think it's just jealousy on her part.

Ladonna has been successful in doing this stuff, and Patty wanted to be successful.

Patty wanted to be recognized crime writer.

She had written some sort of online book about a murder that happened back in the 20s or 30s over in Crawford County.

And she stepped back, and she saw that ladonna was being successful, and it was something that really bothered her.

I think that it.

The conversations that I had with ladonna indicated to me that she was very, very, let's say, jealous.

I don't know if jealous is the right word, but she was very, very aware of what ladonna was doing, and she tried to play down ladonna's success to me in several phone conversations.

Now, I know you haven't listened to it, but this is what sparked me as funny.

If you ever listen to the Patty Rush episode, Javier Leyva is pinning her up like she is who ladonna is inspiring to be, that Patty Rush is all successful, and she's been doing this long before LaDonna, and that LaDonna is inspiring to be what Patty Rush is.

So he's trying to make her seem like that she is the overly successful one.

It's exactly the opposite.

Ladonna has been successful in everything she's ever done in her life.

You know, she's a successful crime writer.

She runs this nonprofit for women in recovery up in northwest Arkansas.

Ladonna.

Just the fact that she adopted all these children from one family to keep them together, rather than they were going to separate all these kids out all over the place, and Ladonna and Danny stepped in and took these children in.

I have worked with ladonna on a lot of different things.

Ladonna is very charitable.

She worked with me in a nonprofit or tried to work with me in a nonprofit where things went sideways.

And she's been very supportive of a lot of the stuff that I do.

I'm.

I'm very, very much into memorializing fallen police officers.

She's helped me with.

With some of that.

I just can't say enough about Lanada.

I think she's a wonderful person.

I've said time and time again, she's like a sister to me, and I'd take a bullet for.

And the fact that Patty Rush and other people are doing what they're trying or are doing what they're trying to do to ladonna, just to smear, I think it all revolves back to another person and.

Or I at least think that Patty and this other person may be linked up together in this campaign, basically to try to ruin ladonna's life.

So before I switch gears, I do want to ask you.

This question has nothing to do with Patty, but this has been something that she's been accused of.

I haven't quite heard it yet on this podcast, but I believe it's going to come up.

So I'm going to ask you.

It has been said, and she's been accused that she is the orchestrator behind any piece that you have written about her or about Anthony Christopher.

Is that true?

That's absolutely false.

The Anthony Christopher thing.

I saw a blurb in the Arkansas Democrat Gazette.

I'm just like any other reporter.

I take my leads where I get them.

So I started following this out, and I knew ladonna and I were friends at the time, and I knew that ladonna had made these accusations about this Medicaid fraud against Anthony Christopher.

And I tried and tried and tried to get her to talk to me.

When I first wrote my pieces, she absolutely refused to talk to me at the.

At the advice of her attorney up in Northwest Arkansas.

She never really has talked to me a whole lot about any of this stuff involving Anthony Christopher and this Medicaid case.

She has frustrated me to no end because I have.

I had questions when I was writing the stuff about the Medicaid pieces, about the Medicaid fraud pieces, and I had questions, and I would call her, and she said, you know, Dennis, you know, I can't answer that.

You know, I'm not allowed to talk to you about that.

So any of the stuff that I got over the years, other than some direct quotes from before, from.

From when?

Before her attorney, you know, shut her down.

On the thing has been my work, my research.

It's stuff that I've gone out and done.

As far as ladonna and me being friends, absolutely, we are friends.

Has ladonna ever reached out to me and said, I need you to write this piece about Anthony Christopher, or I need you to write this piece about anybody defending her.

It's absolutely untrue.

I am bound and determined to write pieces to defend her on my website because she deserves to be defended.

But nobody tells me what to put on my website.

Nobody tells me what to write or not or what not to write.

The prosecutor attorney here in Sebastian County, Arkansas, contacted me one time and said, I need you to take that down.

And I'm like, no, you don't tell me what I can and can't write on my.

On my publication.

So those allegations are just ludicrous that ladonna has told me to write something or has been on something that operate.

So speaking of Anthony Christopher, as we know he is probably the main catalyst behind this, I want to ask you to go deep into the case because I do have another witness or another person is going to come on and talk to me about that.

But what I do want to know is, from your standpoint of writing about the case that Anthony Christopher has filed against ladonna, what is your understanding of it?

My understanding is that sued her for slander and defamation.

The case was up in Bentonville, Benton county, in the circuit court up there.

Okay.

There was a bunch of interactions.

She'd accuse him of this, and the state was investigating him.

The state confirmed to me that he was under investigation for Medicaid fraud.

In fact, they filed charges against him on, I think it was two counts of Medicaid fraud and one count of identity fraud or something like that.

Before they filed charges against him.

He filed this slander and defamation case against ladonna, Northwest Arkansas.

There was a situation where they were in court, and the judge said, I need some information that is on your phone.

And ladonna said, fine, absolutely.

I'll give you the information.

No problem.

It was that night or the next night.

Ladonna had returned home from grocery shopping, and she had left her purse in the car while she's bringing in groceries and let the car unlocked while she's bringing groceries.

One of the kids told her, hey, mom, somebody's out there messing around in your car.

By the time she got from the back of the house to the front, all she saw was a blazer leaving.

Her purse had been stolen.

Her phone was in the Purse.

She shows up in court for the next court date, which was, like, on Tuesday.

And, you know, Judge Dolly, whatever her name is, says, well, I need you to produce your phone.

I can't produce phone.

Somebody stole my phone.

Well, that's real convenient that somebody stole your phone.

Now, she had filed a police report that her phone had been stolen that night.

And she told the police that she suspected that it was either somebody.

It was either Anthony Christopher or somebody involved with Anthony Christopher that had stolen her phone.

This judge says, well, you didn't bring this phone back like I told you there.

Therefore, you're in contempt of court.

And I find in favor of Anthony Crispr.

She gives him a $3 million judgment against this woman for slander and defamation.

Okay?

Months later, they charge him with this stuff they were investigating with the exact stuff or investigating him for the exact stuff that ladonna had said they were investigating for.

He bought her.

He bought her bankruptcy appeal.

She's in court right now trying to get her bankruptcy appeal back because she wants to be able to appeal this thing, to appeal this judgment against her based upon the fact that they did charge him with exactly what she said he had done.

Now, the state, they fumbled the case.

They let this guy file so many continuances through different lawyers and everything else, that eventually there was turnover in the office.

Witnesses can be located, and they just threw their hands up and said, well, we're just going to dismiss the thing because on our end, we can't build a case based upon the evidence.

We now have the witnesses that we can contact.

So the state of Arkansas just.

Just fumbled the case.

And it doesn't surprise me because it's the state of Arkansas, and they have a tendency sometimes to do that, not only on the state level, but on the local level in the counties.

Justice doesn't always meet a proper end in the state of Arkansas.

That's what I know about that case.

I haven't written anything about any of those cases for several months just because of the fact that ladonna's attorney shut her down and wouldn't let me talk to.

Wouldn't let her talk to me about any of it.

I mean, I can go back and rehash what I've written to this point, but.

And I have new information, but without confirming that information with ladonna, I.

You know, I don't feel comfortable putting these stories out there.

So just to let you know, too, from the documents that I now have, as well as what they have now uploaded online, Adonna has won her appeal.

So he was not able to buy her rights.

The judge on one of her sentence or one of her hearings struck that.

And she is now currently in appeal.

And that's been the biggest thing with this Java labor podcast.

They keep saying that he's won the $3.5 million judgment.

Okay, yes, it was granted to him, but it's now an appeal.

And to me, in law, appeal means no one's getting anything yet because we're going to rehear this and they keep driving that nail home.

So.

Right.

Well, I think if anyone that has any common sense at all looks at the situation, looks at the fact that she, whoever she told that.

Cause that started all this, she absolutely told them the absolute truth that there was stuff going on in that office, Medicaid fraud and all this other stuff.

The state of Arkansas investigated him and charged him with it.

Okay.

The fact that he got a bogus kangaroo court judgment with who knows what goes on up there in, in that judge's court, but the fact that he got this bogus kangaroo court judgment in between the times she said he did it and they charged him with it is ridiculous.

I mean, once they charged him with it, all the charges should have been dropped.

I mean, the defamation and slander thing should have been dismissed.

But that's not the way things work in these, some of these backwards thinking judges in our judicial system here in Arkansas.

So based on some dealings that you've had with Anthony Christopher, do you think he's a good person?

What kind of person do you think that he is?

And can you share some things with us that maybe you went through with him personally?

Let me, I'm trying to formulate the words that that won't get me in trouble.

I don't know what your podcast will or will not allow as far as what I think about.

You can speak as freely as you need to.

Anthony Christopher is a piece of.

That's the bottom line.

He has done all this stuff.

Old Donna There are several.

I mean, there are other cases where he has done stuff to people over and over and over.

You know, I contacted another lady that he defrauded on a property deal and she wouldn't talk to me about it because she was scared of him.

You know, Anthony Christopher has contacted me through text probably seven or eight dozen times through fake text message services.

And because I'm astute to.

Like I said, I can, I can read something that somebody wrote and then I can go back and read something else that they wrote and I can tell you from punctuation grammar, the way they structure their sentences, how they do your paragraphs.

I can tell you, hey, this person wrote that, and this person wrote this.

Anthony, Christopher has contacted me numerous times with.

It'll start off, hey, I've got a tip for you.

Then it'll turn into, well, bigfoot was spotted down national forest.

Then it turns into, well, this couple was down there and their tent got ripped up.

And then, you know, I know it's him.

I know it's him from, like I said, from being able to read these texts and being able to conceptualize who's sending me this stuff, and I'll play along with him.

Well, eventually I'll.

I'll tell him, okay, okay, Chrissy, what do you want?

All this stuff.

Then he gets mad and he goes off on these profane, just crazy rants and.

And everything else through text messages.

He does it through email.

He, you know, he has people call me with these wild accusations.

He has.

At one point, there was a guy working for him in his alternative bar up in Eureka Springs that he told the guy the guy got the COVID got Covid and was working when he had Covid, found out after.

Or he worked a couple of weeks and then found out he had Covid, but he'd been sick the whole time.

Chrissy.

Well, Anthony, I call him Chrissy, told this guy, said, oh, well, don't tell anybody you had the COVID We're going to hide the fact that you had the COVID because we don't want anybody that comes to the bar thinking that they were exposed to the COVID because we didn't do anything about it.

And all this other stuff.

One of the guys, a lot about the guy first reached, reached out to me.

I wrote a story about it, reached out to me and said, hey, he told me to not tell anybody, want me to lie.

And then they fired me after the fact.

Well, you know, I.

I take everything into consideration.

The guy was fired.

He was probably mad at Anthony, but.

But he.

But he sent me text messages from Anthony to him saying, you know, don't let anybody know you.

That you.

You're sick.

You know, Doug, we're going to take care of you.

We're going to.

We're going to take care of you while you're off.

We'll feed you, we'll do this and everything else, but just don't let anybody know that you were in the bar while you had Covid.

You know, he ended up turning on the guy.

Now, I think eventually the guy maybe went back into that community, you know, and got back involved.

But that's the kind of stuff that Anthony Christopher does.

He has been, you know, he's threatened to sue me numerous times.

I'm going to sue you for lies.

I'm going to sue you for slander.

And yet I've been going through this with him for multiple years, and not once has he reached out to my attorney.

I've told him on numerous occasions who my attorney is.

Because, you know, the best defense against libel and slander and defamation is the truth.

I don't post something on my website unless it's the truth, unless I can back it up with documentation, with witnesses, and all this other stuff.

So Anthony Christopher, I think, is an evil person who carries out vendettas against anyone that gets in his way.

So the one thing that you brought up was that you talk to somebody who was afraid of Anthony Christopher.

It's funny that the Pretend podcast has called their series who's Afraid of ladonna Humphrey?

When I've talked to at least five people who's refused to talk to me because they've cited that they are afraid of Patty Rush and Anthony Christopher.

When your opinion, besides the things you said, why do you think these people are afraid?

Do you think that he would come back at them if he's done something before in the past?

Well, I think that people are aware of what Anthony's capable of, and I think they're aware of what Patty's capable of as well.

And nobody wants to be smeared on social media 24 hours a day, seven days a week.

I, you know, I told you, I'm going through a similar situation myself, and it's tough.

But the problem with people that are willing to speak out, as long as you keep them, keep them anonymous, you know, you have them as a source, I have them as a source.

And, you know, what they're telling you is absolute truth.

But you throw it out there and say, well, this person, you know, I talked to this person, but they told me this anonymously.

Well, everybody thinks you're making it up.

Everybody thinks you're just making stuff up and attributed to anonymous source.

Because these people are scared to step out into the spotlight because they don't want the same treatment that everybody else has gotten if they have tried to step out and defend ladonna.

So, yeah, that's what, that's what I'm getting to as well.

It's kind of a shame.

The people that I have spoken to that I can't name, yeah, they were scared, and I Believe everything that they had to tell me.

I'm sure that there'll be replications for me for.

For being on the podcast.

I mean, absolutely.

They'll come after me, you know, just like they've gone after other people.

But I'm used to it.

I mean, I've endured, you know, several years of it from.

From Anthony.

You know, Patty hasn't come after me as much, other than the fact that Patty has made some statements about me that I'm not comfortable with.

Patty hasn't come after me, you know, as much as on social media or stuff like that.

Anthony has come after me personally.

He is, you know, with these phone calls, with telling other people that I've done this, that I've done that, trying to, you know, tell me he's going to get my publication shut down, telling me, you know, and.

And hey, there has been case after case after case of people contacting me about Anthony Christopher.

I've reached out to some people, you know, like the lady, you know, you can.

It's public record these lawsuits he's been involved with over the.

The property situation.

I reached out to that lady because I researched and found out her name, and I reached out to her.

But there had been numerous people that have reached out to me that I didn't even know existed and said, anthony Christopher did this.

Anthony Christopher did that.

Anthony Christopher is involved in this.

Anthony Christopher is involved in that.

I've never reached out to those people.

They've reached out to me because of my publication, seeing stories that I've written about Anthony.

I kind of get it.

I mean, I kind of get people not wanting to be attacked on social media, not wanting to be attacked personally, not having lawsuits filed against them and everything else.

I get it.

Like I said, I'm going through a similar situation myself.

But you've got to stand up for the truth.

Somebody has got to stand up for the truth.

And if we don't, then these people win.

And I'm not.

I'm 66 years old.

I'm not about letting people ruin other people's lives.

And that's all this is.

It's just a orchestrated campaign to ruin this woman's life, and she doesn't deserve it.

So, Dennis, in closing, what would you like to say about this entire situation to the audience and anything you would like to say about or to Ladonna at this point?

Well, once again, I love Ladonna like a sister.

Ladonna has been absolutely amazing to me.

And for me, I lost my wife in 2022 and Ladonna is one of the reasons that I was able to cope with that.

Talking to ladonna, her giving me advice, her talking to me.

I know ladonna is devoted to her children and loves her children, and she's always been concerned about my grandchildren, my relationship with my grandchildren.

It just sickens me.

It sickens me that these people, these psychopathic narcissistic lunatics, are using these weapons of social media and of.

I mean, at one point, I had heard that Anthony Christopher was organizing some sort of a parade in connection with this podcast.

I mean, how delusional do you have to be to think that a parade against a woman that has done as much for her community and for other people as ladonna Humphries is a viable thing?

I mean, to me, like I said, psychopaths, lunatics, narcissistic people who have agendas, and they just need to go away and leave ladonna Humphreys alone.

Well, Dennis, I thank you for coming on the show today.

You've been a wealth of information.

Thank you for helping me put the Truth out against his other podcast.

You know, as podcasters or as journalists, I've always taken the stance that we can't control what people say or what people lie about, but we can't control we put on our platforms.

And it does, sticking me as a podcaster, that this show is allowing these people to come on and to say these things that are not true to destroy somebody's life.

So I thank you for coming on and giving me some more insight into the case.

Not a problem.

Anytime.

All right, so that was the interview with Dennis McCaslin.

I'm not going to hold you here too long.

I think Dennis said all needed to be said, but I do want to point out a few things.

The first thing I want to point out is that this interview was shot a while ago, early summer, so you probably heard some things that has already come to pass.

Episodes of Pretend Podcast has already taken place, but this interview is still very relevant because of the topics that we talked about.

As you heard, we talked about Patty Rush at length, as well as Anthony Christopher and the things in which he has done the Disney McCastle in the past, as well as some other people.

Let me fast forward to now.

See, everything that Dennis said came true.

He said he knew there would be repercussions for coming on my podcast.

They would go after him.

Well, that happened before he came on my podcast, as you guys know.

They went profusely after me.

Again, I'll point out a Person they do not know, but someone that stood in opposition of them.

They tried to destroy and take down my life.

It has not happened, but they've certainly tried.

Since then with Dennis McCaslin, they have done exactly the same thing.

They have called him from numbers, they have texted him.

Javier Laver himself directly has called him, trying to get him to say things against ladonna Humphrey or trip him up, whatever he wants to do.

Several times Dennis McCastlin has told them to kick rocks.

I'll just put it blankly.

He's told him to kiss his ass, but they still try.

Recently they even tried to spoof as one of the local newscasters there in Arkansas by saying who she was and she wanted to talk to Dennis about what he's been writing about the case with Pretend podcast.

All that was quickly debunked.

These people has went after him hard, I guess.

They've written some episodes and they released about them.

They've accused him and ladonna Humphrey of stealing Little Debbie snack cakes.

Now people who's listening to this is laughing.

I can't make this stuff up.

It's a whole episode about they stole some snack cakes.

Really.

And I will say that when it comes to the snack cakes and the person they called that plant was really upset.

It's never happened.

I have confirmation of that.

But this is just the stupidity in which we are going through.

So once again go back and listen to everything he said because everything he said is still relevant.

Like I said, because there's things that is still happening now.

Still getting accused of having ladonna Humphrey write my episodes.

Still being accused of having done a Humphrey write for his paper.

I've told him profusely and when I say him, I mean Anthony Christopher, if you think it's true and you got a case, take me to court.

As you see, I have not been to court yet because they know it's not true.

All right, so that is the end of that.

I will be back one more time.

I did tell you that I will come back if there was breaking news.

And I will be back one more time with that episode.

And I will tell you, people on that Reddit thread are.

I should call them Javier and Anthony's cult does not know how to listen.

But I will cover that as well as my police report.

Since I'm going to jail, I'm going to tell you exactly what it said and why Anthony Christopher hasn't said anything more about it since he's been saying I'm going to jail.

It's been over a couple of months.

I'm still sitting here, by the way.

So we will go over that and I will answer a couple of emails in which I have received.

And yes, prepare yourself.

One of them is political.

So you're now going to hear what I think of politics, what I think of Trump winning, what I think is going on in the world and what will happen and how I do.

Like in the pretend podcast who's afraid of Donald Humphrey's season to the whole entire political thing in which we just went through.

I don't talk politics very much.

I don't run a political channel.

But when somebody from there wants to bring it into my world, well, now you get to hear me talk about it.

Whether you like it or whether you don't, I'm not really gonna care because anything I've said in this podcast anyway they don't like.

So why should I start now?

All right, so I hope you guys are all having a good day.

Like I said, I'll be back One more episode because it is kind of breaking news that I need to tell you about a couple of things and then once again, if anybody's listening after this one, I will be done until sometime in the beginning of the year.

This one is taking me a while because, well, unlike the people over there, I do actually have a full time job and this time of the year my schedule changes and I'm working overtime from now until January.

Also, my computer had went on the fritz to where I had to totally reformat it.

So that slowed me down a little bit too as well.

But once again, one more episode where I'm going to talk to you about a couple of themes which includes my police report as the Christopher is not talking about that anymore and why I'm not and never will go to jail as well as a couple of other things that we will discuss.

All right guys, so until then, hope you guys are all having a good day.

And always remember, it may not seem like it now, but I promise you, love will always conquer hate.

I'll catch you guys on the next one to contact us and to see all of the evidence presented in today's show, make sure you click on the link tree link in the show Notes We Are Not Afraid is hosted and Produced by David McClam Photography is done by the talented Connie Baylock of Science SLB Photography Intro and outro music Missing Evidence by Mark Fabian.

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