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The narrative surrounding Oasis of Northwest Arkansas reveals deeper societal issues related to addiction recovery and the stigmatization o…
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Oct. 28, 2024
Exposing The Witch Hunt Of LaDonna Humphrey: Oasis And Interview With Anita
The narrative surrounding Oasis of Northwest Arkansas reveals deeper societal issues related to addiction recovery and the stigmatization of those in recovery. David McClam articulates the incredible work done by Oasis in providing a structured and supportive environment for women battling addiction, juxtaposed against the backdrop of attacks from individuals like Javier Leyva. The episode features an in-depth interview with Anita, a campus manager who shares her personal experiences and the positive changes she has witnessed in the women at Oasis. The discussion highlights the essential role of accountability and structure in recovery, as emphasized by the strict rules and routines outlined in Oasis's handbook. McClam and Anita dissect the false allegations of abuse and overcrowding that have been leveled against Oasis, providing evidence of the organization’s commitment to transparency, including its Platinum Transparency Award. As the conversation unfolds, the importance of community support and the need for compassion towards those overcoming addiction are brought to the forefront, making a compelling case for the value of programs like Oasis.
Takeaways:
- Oasis of Northwest Arkansas has provided vital support for women recovering from addiction.
- Allegations against Oasis have been thoroughly investigated with no evidence found, reaffirming their integrity.
- The podcast highlights the importance of transparency and accountability in sober living facilities.
- Anita, the campus manager, emphasizes that strict rules at Oasis aid in recovery.
- Javier Leiva's claims against Oasis were fueled by personal vendettas and unfounded accusations.
- The emotional impact of potentially closing Oasis would be catastrophic for many women in recovery.
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Transcript
David McClam
Oasis, a sober living home that has helped many women get their lives on track.
David McClam
From what I've been told, if it wasn't for this program, many of these women would have ended up in jail or worse, dead.
David McClam
But due to the attacks of some who wants to see what one person fail, they have taken Oasis through the wringer.
David McClam
Is everything they've said about Oasis true?
David McClam
What does women say about this program once they're done?
David McClam
We're going to talk to one today.
David McClam
This is We Are Not Afraid, the podcast that exposes the truth among all the lies.
David McClam
I am your host, David McClam.
David McClam
You're listening to Exposing the Witch Hunt of LaDonna Humphrey, episode 10 Oasis and the interview with Anita.
David McClam
What's going on, everybody?
David McClam
Welcome back to We Are Not Afraid where we delve deep into the truth behind the headline, especially when those truths are hidden in plain sight, of course.
David McClam
I'm your host, David McClam.
David McClam
All right, let's jump right into it.
David McClam
Today I'm going to shine a light on Oasis of Northwest Arkansas.
David McClam
And if you've been listening, this organization has been taken through the ringer and lied on as well because of the lies that people are telling to try to bring down ladonna Humphrey.
David McClam
Oasis of Northwood, Arkansas, is a nonprofit organization that is dedicated to providing safe, sober living for women in recovery and their children.
David McClam
Let me give you a little bit of history on Oasis before I let you hear from our guests.
David McClam
Oasis was founded in 2009, and for over a decade, they've served as a critical support system, helping hundreds of women each year.
David McClam
These women aren't just battling to rebuild their lives.
David McClam
They're creating better futures for themselves and their families.
David McClam
Oasis is recognized and highly respected in the field, even recently earning the candid platinum seal of transparency for for their dedication to integrity.
David McClam
Despite their incredible work, Oasis recently found itself targeted by none other than Javier Leyva and his pretend podcast.
David McClam
Javier and his followers waged an unjust campaign against the nonprofit, encouraging false allegations and unwarranted investigations.
David McClam
But here's where things get truly disturbing.
David McClam
According to several women in recovery, Javier allegedly went as far as offering them $500 to make negative statements about Oasis and its director.
David McClam
He reportedly urged his listeners to file false reports, attempting to destabilize the very foundation of this critical nonprofit.
David McClam
But Oasis didn't let these allegations go unchallenged.
David McClam
They faced full investigations by law enforcement, court officials, drug court programs, three unaffiliated attorneys, and an independent auditing firm.
David McClam
The outcome?
David McClam
Not a single allegation was validated.
David McClam
In fact, all investigations reaffirmed Oasis reputation as one of the top sober living homes, not just in Arkansas, but nationwide.
David McClam
This isn't the first time Javier has taken shots at people and organizations that work tirelessly to help others.
David McClam
Javier himself has a record of poor decisions related to drinking, having been arrested for drinking and driving.
David McClam
So he knows firsthand the struggles surrounding drugs and alcohol.
David McClam
Yet he uses his platform to spread unfounded claims about a nonprofit that has been doing outstanding work with no ties to him or his state.
David McClam
Oasis remains a beacon of hope, providing a safe, supportive environment where women can work through the challenges of recovery and make a new start.
David McClam
So, Javier, if you're listening, maybe it's time to think about the impact your words have on those fighting battles you've experienced yourself.
David McClam
Let me just tell you also on top of that, that it is also true that he and his cohorts try to turn Oasis into the Attorney General.
David McClam
They actually took out a full statement on Reddit, and you're hearing me talk to our guest Anita about that in a minute.
David McClam
And they made all kinds of false claims about overcrowding and embezzlement and all kinds of things.
David McClam
And I'm going to tell you how that turned out at the end of this interview.
David McClam
But before I play this interview, I want you to let what I'm about to read to you stick in your mind the whole time.
David McClam
Now, what I've just told you about Oasis, I did state that there were several women that had that has come forth and said that Javier offered them money to come and basically lie on Madonna.
David McClam
Humphrey.
David McClam
Let me read this to you directly from one of these people who has given me permission to read this to you, just using initials that they've provided.
David McClam
So from kj, it says I am not using my real email address, but this is not a spoof message, so I don't want to be misheard on that.
David McClam
The trolls under the bridge are big and mean.
David McClam
I have been at Oasis a few times.
David McClam
It is not a bad place at all.
David McClam
Ladonna is strict and everyone knows that she has a reputation for being strict.
David McClam
One of the women on the podcast is someone I really do not care for.
David McClam
She is an active addiction and she is homeless.
David McClam
Her own family wrote her off.
David McClam
Ladonna stays in touch with me and is there for every goddamn time I need her.
David McClam
She helps me.
David McClam
She helps everyone.
David McClam
She really does.
David McClam
I want you to understand that Javier tried to pay me to come on his podcast to talk shit.
David McClam
He offered me $500.
David McClam
He offered someone who uses heroin $500 to talk.
David McClam
He is basically paying people to go buy drugs to talk ugly about somebody he hates and he should go to jail for that.
David McClam
I told him, no, I need the money, but I care about Ladonna more.
David McClam
Once again, those are KJ's words, not mine.
David McClam
Now I'm going to let you hear from a person who I did not reach out to.
David McClam
She came to me.
David McClam
It was important for her to let you know about Oasis and ladonna Humphrey and the help that Oasis has provided to her.
David McClam
I want you to listen to every word in which she has to say and I really want you to pay attention.
David McClam
When I ask her the question of what would happen if the doors on Oasis was to close tomorrow, I want you to hear her reply.
David McClam
And I wanted to take note of the emotion behind every word she says.
David McClam
She is an active manager at Oasis.
David McClam
This is Anita.
David McClam
Hey, Anita.
David McClam
Thank you for coming on the show.
David McClam
I definitely appreciate it.
David McClam
So thank you.
Anita
No problem.
Anita
I'm glad to help.
David McClam
So from my understanding, you are the campus manager at Oasis, correct?
Anita
Yes, sir, that is correct.
David McClam
Can you please tell us what your job duties are and what you do?
David McClam
The campus manager role.
Anita
So I uphold the handbook.
Anita
I make sure not only the residents are doing what they're supposed to.
Anita
I also manage every manager here as well.
Anita
So we do like drug screens, we issue the write ups when needed and we do the intakes, we search belongings.
Anita
If there has to be a search on campus, we delegate that.
Anita
So I do a lot of delegating, I do a lot of hands on stuff.
Anita
We also, we have a meeting on campus, like a recovery meeting, seven days a week.
Anita
Sometimes there's two.
Anita
Well, not all managers, but for the most part the managers handle that.
David McClam
So can you tell us who wrote the OASIS handbook and why is the handbook important?
Anita
So, yes.
Anita
So the board and graduates of Oasis wrote the handbook.
Anita
It's important because we're coming out of our addiction and we're having to learn daily routines.
Anita
For instance, the chores.
Anita
You know, a lot of people coming out, they, they've never done chores their whole entire life, you know, and so it's getting into a daily routine.
Anita
The handbook says that we have to be up and out of bed at a certain time with our bed maid.
Anita
And I know for a lot of people, they struggle with that, they struggle with depression and just laying in bed all day is not going to help that.
Anita
So that's why we have the rule that you have to be up at a certain hour.
Anita
There's also a curfew because we don't need to be doing things that we did in our addiction.
Anita
Being out late, you know, there's no reason for that.
Anita
There's also we get tracked on this Life 360 app.
Anita
And that is just for first of all, at first most it's for our safety so they can know where we're at at all times just in case something were to happen.
Anita
But also it's accountability to say that, you know, hey, we're going to this place and we're actually going to that place and being there.
Anita
People that have been in addiction, they have so many different character defects that they have to work on.
Anita
In this handbook, I will tell you this.
Anita
I've been to several different sober livings and rehabs.
Anita
I've been to, I've been to the county jail more times than I can count.
Anita
I've been to prison twice.
Anita
And we have to have routines.
Anita
And so total, I think it's right under eight years that I've been of my adult life walked away.
Anita
And so I need structure, I need accountability, I need guidance to be able to know how it's supposed to be able to be on the outside.
Anita
Does that make sense?
David McClam
It does, yes.
Anita
Yes.
Anita
So I was actually at Oasis last year, but I wasn't ready.
Anita
And for me to come back in a second time because I know the program works.
Anita
I've seen it have work over and over again.
Anita
So many successful stories from Oasis and I am not court ordered here.
Anita
I came on my own and I thank God every day that ladonna said yes to me.
Anita
You know, these rules are not far fetched rules.
Anita
They're, they're simple and there is a lot of rules and it is strict.
Anita
You know, this is one of the strictest programs that I have been in, but it's there for a reason.
Anita
I've been to places that didn't even care, didn't have curfews, they didn't check to see if the house was clean or whatever.
Anita
And those success rates are very low, very low.
Anita
The girls that come here, I just, I get to see the light come on in their eyes.
Anita
And there's so many women that are getting their children back, getting their DHS cases closed, they're graduating drug court and getting their felonies off the record, you know, because they're putting in the work and they're, they're abiding by these rules that are intact.
David McClam
So you mentioned you left and you came back.
Anita
Yes.
David McClam
When you returned, did ladonna Humphrey welcome you back with open Arms.
Anita
Yes.
Anita
She did not hesitate.
Anita
I called her from the detox center that I was at, and she did not hesitate whatsoever.
Anita
She did tell me that it was going to be harder the second time, and it was because I was a house manager last year when I was here.
Anita
And it definitely humbled me, coming back in, you know, to a phase one with, you know, even more restrictions than, say, a phase two or a phase three.
Anita
And.
Anita
But I worked my way up, and I'm working my program to the fullest.
Anita
And, I mean, she's right by my side.
Anita
She's one of my biggest cheerleaders.
David McClam
Now, you mentioned that ladonna is strict.
Anita
Yes.
David McClam
Would you say that she's also fair in the road of being strict?
Anita
Absolutely.
Anita
Absolutely.
Anita
I cannot put into words this woman is not.
Anita
It's okay.
Anita
So a lot of people say that you have to.
Anita
An addict, have to have been an addict or an alcoholic to be able to pinpoint different things about running a place like this.
Anita
And she proves that that is wrong.
Anita
She knows exactly what she's doing.
Anita
You know, And I first met Ladonna, she was on the board for another program that I was in.
Anita
And I won't mention their names, but that's how I met her originally.
Anita
And so she's.
Anita
She's been a part of this type of work for a very long time, longer than she's been at Oasis.
Anita
So she knows what she's doing.
David McClam
I would agree with you.
David McClam
I have never been an addict.
David McClam
However, I do have an older daughter that's a recovering addict, and I've been around them.
David McClam
I just think a person can run this kind of a program if they do have love and compassion for people.
Anita
Yes.
David McClam
That's all you really need to run this, because, you know.
David McClam
You know.
David McClam
You know, being an addict, you guys are at your lowest of low.
David McClam
And sometimes people are drug addicts because they have nowhere else to go, and this makes them feel good.
David McClam
And when you run into somebody that just says, hey, regardless of what you've been through, I'm just gonna love you through it, you can run that kind of a house.
David McClam
And I think that's the kind of person ladonna is.
Anita
Absolutely.
Anita
I couldn't agree more.
Anita
You know, compassion is when somebody doesn't have groceries here and she purchases them out of her own pocket.
Anita
You know, compassion is getting them a phone, because it's a rule where we have to have a phone with the data on it to be able to be tracked.
Anita
Right.
Anita
And, you know, for her to purchase that out of her own pocket.
Anita
You know, you know, she wants us all to win and that's the, that's the end goal, right, for us all to be successful and to win.
David McClam
Well, thank you for telling me about the Life 360, because all of you I've interviewed Oasis, I have never heard that, really.
David McClam
And that kind of puts a big, huge red X over some of the things that's being said about the women, you know, being abused, not knowing where they are.
David McClam
If you got Life360 on them, then the, the managers and the director knows where they are at all times.
Anita
And that's one of the big parts of my job, is to know where everybody's at.
Anita
Like, I look at that 360 all the time and I, I know, like their work schedules pretty much, pretty much everybody.
Anita
I have down about 90, 95% of their work schedules.
Anita
And so I know if we have a sign out sheet in the entryway of each house and they have to not only sign out on that sheet and sign back in, but we also have the 360.
Anita
So when we're doing count a night, because we do two different counts a night and when we're doing count, if it doesn't match up, we can see on the 360 like, hey, where, where are you at?
Anita
It says on the sheet that you're going to this place, but you're really not there.
David McClam
Now here's the big question.
David McClam
One of them at least, because if you don't know this, the Pretend Podcast has put out two different petitions against Oasis.
David McClam
The second one, now they have actually begged and they've spammed the Attorney General to do an investigation because they're citing that women are mistreated and that they are being abused by Ladonna Humphrey.
David McClam
Have you ever at any time witnessed Ladonna being abusive to other women or has she ever been abusive to you?
Anita
Absolutely not.
Anita
Not one time.
Anita
I can't even think of an instance that it was even questionable.
Anita
Since I've heard that allegation.
Anita
I, you know, like, I racked my brain for a few days, like, like, why would somebody say that?
Anita
And I wasn't racking my brain because I thought that some specific instance was questionable.
Anita
I was just racking my brain, like, why these people would be saying that.
Anita
You know, like I mentioned before, I've been to a lot of different places.
Anita
I know the difference between right and wrong, and I would not be working straight.
Anita
Like, I'm right under her.
Anita
Like, it goes the director and then I'm campus manager, you know, and So I would not be working for somebody that was not fair.
Anita
I would not do that.
Anita
It would not work for anybody that's abusive whatsoever.
Anita
I do not tolerate bullying.
Anita
I do not like disrespect at all on this campus.
Anita
And first of all, she does not tolerate it.
Anita
And that's why we get along so well, because we cut all that out.
Anita
Whenever they come in and I'm doing their intake, I let them know immediately that we don't deal with that here.
Anita
Everybody is to be treated equal.
David McClam
So I'll answer this follow up question.
David McClam
If ladonna was indeed abusive and done any of the things that they're saying she's done, would you have stayed by her side or would you continue to stay by her side?
Anita
I would pack my bags and I would go to my house that's literally five minutes away.
Anita
I have a house here in the same town, and I choose to be here because I believe in this program.
David McClam
If the OASIS doors close tomorrow, what do you think would happen to the women that depend on the program now and the women that can benefit from the program in the future?
Anita
Oh, that's a.
Anita
That's gut wrenching, heart wrenching.
Anita
I don't even want to think about that.
Anita
There were.
Anita
I mean, I'm confident in the women that we have currently, but that would be irrational to think that all of us would stay sober.
Anita
You know, the statistics say otherwise.
Anita
The amount of women that that would affect, I mean, you would have to keep.
Anita
Continue multiplying it and multiplying it because we, we've helped so many women and are currently helping so many women.
Anita
You just got to think of how many women have we helped and that are successful right now and times that by a million.
Anita
Because if this place closed, I mean, nobody else would be walking in the door and they would have to go to other places, which is.
Anita
There's not, not a whole lot around here, you know, So I just think it would be absolutely heart wrenching.
David McClam
Now, the other big question that they're throwing around, or the allegation I should say, is about compensation.
David McClam
Can you tell us how the managers are compensated at Oasis?
Anita
Yes, we get our weekly shared housing reduced.
Anita
It varies on what level of management you are, but we do get reduced shared housing for that.
Anita
And also, since we're talking about shared housing, I wanted to touch on the fact that when residents come in here, sometimes they don't have paychecks coming in for like six to eight weeks.
Anita
Right.
Anita
And they don't have any other money coming in.
Anita
You know, their Families have all, you know, said they were done or, you know, they're just trying to regroup and restart over and they don't have anybody to contact.
Anita
So we do have resources for them to reach out to to help pay that shared housing.
Anita
But if they just can't get it done, sometimes Oasis foots the bill for these ladies, you know, and pays their shared housing.
Anita
I mean, there's.
Anita
I don't know if you want to.
Anita
I'm not going to mention any names, but like the.
Anita
Some of the people that are making these allegations, you know, they lived here rent free, you know, and it just, it's just so absurd to me.
Anita
Like, why would you say these things about this place that gave you a free roof over your head?
David McClam
Well, now you bring that up.
David McClam
That was a question.
David McClam
Let's just jump to that one.
David McClam
You don't have to mention their name.
David McClam
But can you tell us what you do know about the women that did make these allegations?
David McClam
Did they cause any problems?
David McClam
Do you know why they would be making these allegations against Ladonna now?
Anita
Bitter, bitter people.
Anita
I've seen it over and over, you know, many places I've been, they are asked to leave and they're like, oh, well, I'm going to do this, I'm going to do this, I'm going to say this.
Anita
And they just start to believe their own lies.
Anita
And that's part of back to addiction, you know, that's part of the behavior is because these are all behaviors behind our addiction.
Anita
And a few of them have the behaviors where they're going to lie, stretch the truth, however you want to put it.
Anita
You know, one of the residents was living here rent free.
Anita
I personally drug screened her and she was failing drug screens and she was given the opportunity to come clean and it just ended up going south.
Anita
She just decided that she was going to leave because she was getting phased down, which is not horrible.
Anita
You still have a free house, you know, stay at.
Anita
But she didn't want to comply, so she was asked to leave, you know, and then another person was living here rent free.
Anita
Her dog chewed up like the room that I'm staying in now chewed up the inside of it and was.
Anita
Didn't even pay for the damages, you know, and she was given a job as well.
Anita
Like really been here rent free and working for Oasis, you know, and it makes no sense to me, you know, these it.
Anita
But at the same time, they're sick, you know, that we're.
Anita
Every single addict is sick.
David McClam
Do you know right now if any of these women are actively in addiction right now.
Anita
I do not speak to any of them.
Anita
I have heard from reliable sources, but I don't want to say that I know, in fact, because I have not seen it and I have not spoken to them about it.
Anita
But the one that was did leave.
Anita
I mean, I know she was failing for drug screens, you know, because I.
Anita
I was the one testing her.
Anita
So I don't know if she's gotten sober since then.
David McClam
How would you feel if I was to tell you I had a young lady reach out to me.
David McClam
She wanted to use initials, so she didn't say what her name was, and advised me that the Pretend podcast had paid these women $500 apiece.
David McClam
She also stated that she was offered $500 to appear on the podcast and to talk lies about ladonna.
David McClam
Now, I guess I have to say allegedly about the other ones, but when it came to her, she says they have.
David McClam
How would that make you feel, if the allegations is true, that they paid these women that are subject to go out and put it in their veins $500 just to gain some ounce of revenge against Ladonna Humphrey?
Anita
That makes me extremely, extremely sad.
Anita
You know, you said to put that money into their veins.
Anita
You know, I'm an ex IV user by the grace of God.
Anita
I've been clean from that for five and a half years.
Anita
But that just stabbed me in the chest.
Anita
Like you will do anything and everything for money whenever you're using.
Anita
So such a small price to pay for somebody's character to be tarnished.
Anita
$500, shame on them.
Anita
$500, shame on Javier.
Anita
That is absolutely.
Anita
There's nothing in this world worth going and saying all these things.
David McClam
To be honest with you, I don't know these young ladies.
David McClam
When I read that, I was automatically pissed off.
David McClam
Like I said, my daughter is a recovering addict.
David McClam
I have other family members that were addicts, and all I could think about was he had to know, you know, what that would do?
Anita
Yes, because he's.
Anita
He's dangling.
Anita
That's pretty much dangling a dope bag in their faces and saying, here, come tell me what I want.
David McClam
And don't tell me.
David McClam
They can't tell that you're using.
David McClam
You have that certain look in your eye, you know, of do anything, you know, if you're going to give them that money.
David McClam
Yes, but that's what I'm hearing, and I've reported on that.
David McClam
And like I said, I have to say allegedly, because I don't know when it comes to them, but this young lady has told Me, Yes.
David McClam
I too was offered, you know, this 500 and I pretty much told him to kick rocks.
David McClam
This just shows you the level that they're going at just to bring Ladonna Humphrey down, which is sad.
Anita
That is sad.
Anita
And that's insane.
Anita
No same person would do that.
David McClam
So back on the compensation piece, does any of the managers get a salary there?
Anita
No.
Anita
No, we do not.
David McClam
Are the houses that oasis clean?
Anita
Yes, yes.
Anita
I go do daily walkthroughs of both houses.
Anita
Matter of fact, when I got off work, the first thing I did was do a walkthrough of the house I stand.
Anita
And then when I was done, I went and did a walk through at the other house, you know, and there's going to be instances where a lady forgets to wash her cup.
Anita
You know, it's.
Anita
It's going to happen, you know, like, but as far as, like, cleanliness, it is absolutely clean, everybody.
Anita
We have deep clean Saturdays.
Anita
So the chores that they're assigned during the whole entire week, I change the chore board once a month and then so they have the same chores all month long and they clean those every day.
Anita
And then they're also deep cleaning them on Saturday along with their personal areas.
Anita
And I have personally given a tour to the one of our legal systems here and they walk through and it was passed with flying colors.
Anita
You know, there's no dirtiness whatsoever.
Anita
And that was on a whim.
Anita
I didn't even know they were coming until like 30, 45 minutes before they got here.
Anita
You know, I was already in town.
Anita
So like, you know, so to say, I mean, they can walk at any time and see that it's clean.
Anita
DHS and CASA workers are on site throughout the week, several times a week, and we've never had a complaint one time from them about the houses being dirty.
David McClam
Are the houses considered to be overcrowded?
Anita
No, absolutely not.
Anita
I know if anything, like I.
Anita
Last year when I was here, there was more beds here than this year.
Anita
So I was actually shocked when I came back this year that there was less beds.
David McClam
Now I ask you that question because that's the other two biggest pain points in this bogus petition that they're sending to the AG is that the houses are not clean, that they're overcrowded.
David McClam
And I haven't heard the interview with the other ladies at this point yet, but I'm assuming that they've also made those claims.
David McClam
So that's why it's important to ask you those two questions there.
David McClam
I think we kind of touched on this One, But I'll go back and ask it more formally.
David McClam
As the campus manager, would you allow Ladonna Humphrey or anyone to be abusive to the residents there?
Anita
Absolutely not.
Anita
No.
Anita
I was abused in different ways throughout my life.
Anita
You know, never by my family or anything, but different ways.
Anita
I'll just leave it at that.
Anita
And I don't stand for that.
Anita
We're affiliated with a human trafficking organization that comes out here, and it pinpoints on abuse.
Anita
So.
Anita
And it.
Anita
They teach us how to speak up if we feel like we're being abused.
Anita
You know, they come out once a month, and we have a good time.
Anita
We do arts and crafts or whatever they have to bring.
Anita
And so we're being taught to speak up if there is any type of abuse in our life.
Anita
And so I'm.
Anita
I'm.
Anita
I'm pretty positive that the ladies would not put up with it if they thought they were being abused.
David McClam
Being that Ladonna is the director, who would you go to in the chain of command if you did witness her doing something that was wrong and you needed to have her be reported?
Anita
I would go to a board member.
David McClam
Does the board, or I should say, does Ladonna actually really answer to the board?
Anita
Yes, absolutely.
Anita
I can't count how many times I've asked her a question, and she.
Anita
Her response was, well, let me get with the board about it and I'll get back to you.
David McClam
Okay, that question is there because they have asserted that there is really no board, that Ladonna has stacked the board with all of her friends, and that there is no checks and balances at oasis.
David McClam
So that's where that question comes in at.
Anita
Okay, so I want to tell you this.
Anita
So when all this first started coming out, the board and Ladonna came onto campus and we all gathered in one of the houses in the living room and the dining room.
Anita
It's like a combination room.
Anita
And they laid it all out.
Anita
They said any questions that we had that we were free to ask.
Anita
They asked if we felt like we were going to be interviews, like if we thought for anything.
Anita
They wanted to know if our thoughts and concerns, if we could.
Anita
They could approve doing something, you know, in this way or that way.
Anita
Just whatever we wanted to ask that we were feel free to ask, and if we thought about something later to please get in touch with them.
Anita
And they would.
Anita
They would see what they could do.
Anita
And every lady said that they felt safe in that meeting.
Anita
Everybody expressed their gratitude for Oasis.
Anita
A lot of tears were shed during that meeting because we're changing Lives here, you know, and it's really.
Anita
It's scary.
Anita
It hurts my heart because it's scary for some of these women for these people to say these things, you know, because they know that it's wrong.
Anita
And they're like, why would they say this about this place?
Anita
We're living here.
Anita
Why don't they just ask us?
Anita
You know, we're the people that they should be asking, you know, not the former residents that are bitter and sour.
David McClam
Have you ever witnessed anybody paying Ladonna Humphrey for service at Oasis to her personal cash app?
David McClam
Or ever witness her telling people to pay her directly?
Anita
No, absolutely not.
Anita
There's an Oasis Cash app that if people want to pay that way, and then we are.
Anita
We paid our shares housing that way as well.
Anita
And then any checks, like if a lady gets rental assistance, they.
Anita
The resource, whichever resource they use, writes out a check to Oasis and then a manager goes and deposit it.
Anita
And I'm the one that personally checks the mail at both houses every day.
Anita
So I know what's coming in.
Anita
And nothing is addressed for ladonna Humphries when it comes in.
David McClam
That question comes from.
David McClam
Because they are alleging that ladonna Humphrey has instructed everybody to pay her through the Cash app so that she's pocketing the money that the women are paying for rent.
Anita
Wow.
David McClam
I know these sounds ridiculous to you, but these are really where these questions come from.
Anita
I mean, it's not funny, but it.
Anita
But I have to laugh because I'm just like, really?
Anita
Really?
Anita
Because I can show you my cash app, you know, like, I paid that.
David McClam
Account, you know, so then they start talking about grant money.
David McClam
So can you tell us about the grants for Oasis for the vans and the SUVs?
David McClam
What is the story with that?
Anita
Yes.
Anita
Okay.
Anita
So there was a grant given.
Anita
I cannot be accurate on the date that it was granted, but I know that there was no time limit for them to be able to purchase the vehicle.
Anita
Right.
Anita
There was no.
Anita
The grant did not say, you have to have it by June 1st, we'll say, or whatever.
Anita
And so a vehicle has been purchased and they are actually looking into getting a second one as well.
Anita
So I don't know where that's coming.
Anita
Like, I, My.
Anita
My thing is, is what is it any of this Javier's business how ladonna is conducting a sober living for people that he's never even met?
Anita
Like, it just doesn't make sense to me whatsoever.
Anita
But.
David McClam
So I know your answer to this one, but I'll ask you anyway.
David McClam
So do you believe.
David McClam
Do you believe Any or all of these allegations that has been said by the Pretend podcast.
Anita
Not one single one.
Anita
Not one.
Anita
One.
Anita
Nope.
Anita
Not even a smidgen of one.
Anita
No, I do not.
David McClam
No.
David McClam
They keep talking about embezzlement, especially around a house fire, that they're trying to say that she said.
David McClam
Have you ever seen any proof of that, especially dealing anything with the.
David McClam
The church that she was at in tax situations?
Anita
So, yes, I have seen that.
Anita
First of all, she.
Anita
As far as the embezzlement, she wasn't even working for the church on the.
Anita
You know, she'd already put in her resignation, and for the months that they're talking about, she wasn't even on the payroll.
Anita
Like, she had nothing to do with it.
Anita
Like, she.
Anita
She had no access to it whatsoever.
Anita
And it shows in the paperwork.
Anita
And then as far as the fire goes, I mean, she was not ever a suspect.
Anita
Like, I've seen the police report.
Anita
You know, I have it on my phone, actually.
Anita
Like, there's nothing in there that says she's a suspect.
Anita
She just was a person for questioning for somebody else.
Anita
But.
Anita
And, you know, like, she wasn't the time of the fire.
Anita
She was at work, and she has proof that she was at work at the time of the fire.
David McClam
So what have I told you that not only what you said is true, but Javier Leyva also has the proof of this, as I do, and that Ladonna was gone.
David McClam
She's about 12 years removed before this fire.
David McClam
How would you feel about that?
Anita
Wow.
Anita
Like, feels like it's like the back to the future thing, back and forth, like, I don't understand.
Anita
I just.
Anita
My heart breaks for her.
Anita
That's how I feel about it.
Anita
My heart just breaks for her, you know, she's a human being, you know, she doesn't deserve any of this, you know, and the board doesn't deserve any of this, for that matter.
Anita
You know, they have been nothing but upstanding to us, you know, and when they came on campus that day, just the compassion in their eyes, it just.
Anita
It just breaks my heart for all of this.
David McClam
So how do you feel from seeing her as often as you do?
David McClam
How do you feel that Ladonna is handling this situation right now?
David McClam
Is she.
David McClam
Is she strong?
David McClam
What's your thought about that?
Anita
If I was her, I would have cracked.
Anita
But she is still standing.
Anita
She is handling it with grace.
Anita
I took her flowers the other night.
Anita
Me and.
Anita
Me and another one of the managers, and we took her flowers and her just face lit up, you know, she needs those little wins, you know, because this cannot be easy for her at all.
Anita
But she's managing it like she's still running Oasis.
Anita
She's still definitely a mom and a wife.
Anita
She is still active in her other things that she does.
Anita
She's not letting anything stop her.
Anita
And matter of fact, she's writing another book.
Anita
So.
Anita
And she, I just got today, like the first couple chapters and it's gonna be great because everything she does is great, you know, and see, that was my next.
David McClam
You reading my mind.
David McClam
Because, you know, I do know that she's still running the serve, she's still taking care of her family.
David McClam
And I have heard that she is writing a tell all books.
Anita
She sure is.
David McClam
And you just clarify that.
David McClam
And you know, on top of this, I always say people should be careful of what they ask for because Javier just complained on episode seven that the only person he has not heard from in this situation was ladonna Humphrey.
David McClam
And he was kind of alluding to.
David McClam
Well, she's not saying anything.
David McClam
She must be guilty.
David McClam
It's always the quiet people.
Anita
Yes, Amen.
David McClam
That you have to be required about.
David McClam
Be careful of.
Anita
Yes, yes.
Anita
And you know, I asked her, I said, are you.
Anita
If you're not, surely you're not listening to these podcasts.
Anita
Surely you're not.
Anita
And she was like, you know, no, I'm not.
Anita
Not anymore.
Anita
Like, I don't, I can't remember exactly how much of it she said that she did listen to, but it wasn't very much.
Anita
And I told her, I was like, well, people need to quit telling you that.
Anita
What's in it, period.
Anita
Unless it's like life, like something really big.
Anita
And she was like, well, that's why I'm writing a book, because, I mean, I do know what he's accusing me of.
Anita
And I was like, perfect.
Anita
And I read, I've read like half of the first chapter so far and it's pretty good.
David McClam
Well, that brings this question.
David McClam
When she read, when she's writing this book, I've told her not to listen to the podcast and you know, she said she was going to write this book and she had to listen to the show.
David McClam
Do you or anyone else that you know of actively listen to the Pretend podcast?
Anita
I haven't listened to any of it, honestly.
Anita
I've just heard from what people have told me, which is not very much.
Anita
I mean, I've heard I've gotten more from you during this podcast that we're doing right now than I have anything else, but I just don't, I don't want to hear I don't.
Anita
I don't want to hear it.
Anita
I'm not gonna put that poison into me.
Anita
Not that I would believe it for one minute.
Anita
But why?
Anita
Why do something whenever I know what I know?
Anita
I'm.
Anita
I'm living this right now.
Anita
I'm, you know, and why would I do that to myself?
Anita
I'm just not going to.
David McClam
So I asked you that question to kind of prove my point, because I don't think she believes me.
David McClam
But if you let Javier labor tell it, millions of people around the globe is listening to this podcast.
David McClam
And I've told her, repeat let says everybody that you think is listening to this podcast really is not the only reason I listen to it.
David McClam
And I'm way behind.
David McClam
Right.
David McClam
I only listen to the episodes when I know I need to do my own episode on it or I'm interviewing somebody, otherwise I don't have time for that.
David McClam
They've come after me.
David McClam
And the Reddit thread don't need to be there either.
David McClam
So that you prove my point, because everybody in the world, everybody I know is listen to this.
David McClam
I'm like, if they were, they wouldn't market it as hard as they do.
David McClam
So I don't believe everybody in the world is listening to the Pretend podcast.
Anita
No.
Anita
Like, there's.
Anita
I mean, it's called Pretend, so I'm just not going to do it.
David McClam
So in closing of the interview here, is there anything else you would like to say or want the audience to know, or is there anything you'd like to say specifically to Ladonna?
Anita
Just this place is changing lives and, you know, sticks and stones, right?
Anita
Like we're taught as little kids, sticks and stones, my paper, my bones.
Anita
You know, at the end of the day, she's a human being, and she's in my prayers constantly, every day.
Anita
She is not only one of my biggest cheerleaders, she's my friend now and a confidant.
Anita
You know, I've.
Anita
And had some really heavy personal struggles that I've confided in her too, and without hesitation, she's there.
Anita
And I just want to show my appreciation to her, you know, and I heard about you doing this, and I jumped on the opportunity.
Anita
I was not asked to do it.
Anita
I asked if I could do it.
Anita
We're all God's creations.
Anita
I told her at one point that just let them.
Anita
You know that saying, just let them, you know, she said it's easier said than done.
Anita
And I also told her, you know, why it might be hard for her to do, but I do pray for the People that are saying these allegations for God to mend their hearts because they need help.
Anita
And I mean, that's, that's about it.
Anita
Like, I just love her so much.
Anita
I love Oasis and I'm grateful.
Anita
Like, when I say I thank God, I mean, I literally hit my knees and I heard that he picked apart my.
Anita
My testimony that I had did for the Oasis page.
Anita
And I was just, I just kind of laughed.
Anita
I was like, I figured it was going to happen.
Anita
You know, I figured it was going to happen.
Anita
But every word I spoke is true, and every word I'm speaking now is true.
Anita
You know, I graduated this work program that I was in a few months ago, and the lady that was my boss at the time, she.
Anita
She's known me for just as many years as Ladonna has actually.
Anita
She said, but my.
Anita
She gives you a word, like your word of the year, and she said truthful was my word, she said, because no matter how many times I've fallen and no money, no matter how many times the enemy has gotten to me, I've always been truthful about everything.
Anita
And that's so, I mean, to me that meant so much.
Anita
And I'm being truthful right now with every bit of what I'm saying.
David McClam
Yeah, you weren't the only one that they picked apart.
David McClam
I had told LaDonna, I said, they're going to come back and say that the whole thing was staged and that they were.
David McClam
The woman was forced to do that.
David McClam
And that's exactly what they did.
Anita
Man, I did that in the bedroom here within a quick minute.
Anita
Like, it, it was everything.
Anita
I mean, it was truthful or whatever, but that was just something that just.
Anita
I did because I wanted to.
Anita
You know, that's part of.
Anita
That's part of my recovery is service work.
Anita
You know, I don't just do this campus manager stuff because, you know, like, I do believe in oasis, but however, my AA program tells me that I have to do service work in order to stay sober, you know, and I work both programs to my fullest.
Anita
So there's a lot.
Anita
It's not just about these roles and how things are supposed to be ran, but it's about morals, character, right?
Anita
Like all these things are in play, you know, and she, she thinks about all those things.
Anita
Every time she has to per.
Anita
Say, give a write up or she has to redirect somebody, she thinks about what this person is going through at the time, why they acted out, why they broke the rule, and what the best suitable write up would be for that person.
Anita
It's not just like, oh, write her up and she's going to go do this to get rid of the write up.
Anita
No, there's a lot of thought put into everything that is done here.
David McClam
Well, Anita, I really thank you for coming on the show.
David McClam
You know, this means a lot.
David McClam
There's another one I add to the Oasis file so that people out there that really wants to know the truth.
David McClam
A number of you guys have come on the show now.
David McClam
They have all the truth that they want.
David McClam
It's kind of like I tell La Donna, people that wants the truth is here to hear it.
David McClam
And the people that just wants to be entertained, they're just going to keep doing whatever they're doing.
David McClam
So you can't reach out to those you want to talk to, the people that wants to know the truth.
David McClam
So I thank you for coming on and giving your testimony today.
Anita
You're welcome.
Anita
No problem.
David McClam
All right, so there you have it.
David McClam
That was the interview with Anita.
David McClam
I hope you was paying attention like I asked you to when I asked the question of what she thought would happen if the doors of Oasis was to close today.
David McClam
Folks, you cannot fake that that is real.
David McClam
Here's a couple more things I want to hone in on about Oasis to prove to you that this whole thing, as I've said from the beginning, has been a witch hunt on the behalf of Pretend and their characters, as well as Anthony Christopher just trying to tear down Ladonna Humphrey.
David McClam
If you listen to Pretend and you go back to the first few episodes, the first thing that Javier Leva wants to yell and scream about all the time is that he wants 990s and that they refuse to give him 990s.
David McClam
And what are they hiding because of their no 990s.
David McClam
I've heard 990s so much to where I dream about that number in my sleep.
David McClam
If you go back to my episodes, I actually tackled that exact thing because I got tired of hearing it.
David McClam
So I produced my episode telling him exactly how he could obtain these 990s.
David McClam
Just to give you the clarification, that was actually episode three.
David McClam
It was entitled Harassment Blackmail.
David McClam
And you need to know the IRS in that episode I told you about harassment that Oasis and Ladonna and myself was going through.
David McClam
They've tried to blackmail Oasis over giving them these 990s and I.
David McClam
The you need to know the RS part was I was breaking down how the RS works because technically, lawfully, Oasis doesn't have to give him anything because he had been harassing them.
David McClam
So that's just the quick sneak preview.
David McClam
But remember, I also told you that in this job the only thing I agreed with Javier Lever about is that it takes time to do this work.
David McClam
The reason it takes time to do work like this is because you have to go and investigate something that Javier labor never did.
David McClam
He's going on the words what people's telling him because if he would have did what I did.
David McClam
Now I want to keep this in mind because it's been asked me before.
David McClam
How can I be unbiased?
David McClam
Because Ladonna Humphrey is my friend easily.
David McClam
Unlike Javier Leva and his now new friends, I have held Ladonna Humphrey to task.
David McClam
And even though I believe everything that she said, I require her to give me the evidence that she had and to point me in directions of anything that would exonerate her.
David McClam
I didn't take her word 100% for anything.
David McClam
And when it comes to Oasis, I have spoken to a few people like Anita.
David McClam
I also did my checks and balances when it comes to Oasis, which I'm able to tell you this and where I'm going with this all remember, Oasis has won that award, the Platinum Transparency Award.
David McClam
Here is why.
David McClam
If Javier Label was this journalist that he claims himself to be now, I want you guys to understand that in journalism work, that also means we have to do the work by making sure the stories that we are telling you is correct.
David McClam
Which means that we need to go look for ourselves where this evidence is.
David McClam
So if he was the journalist that he says he was, and I'm sure he has, he just wanted to ignore this part of it.
David McClam
There's only one thing he had to do.
David McClam
All he had to do is go to oasisforwomen nwa.org if you scroll down to the very end of that first page you come across, you will see five photos of five very beautiful women who if you look deep into their eyes, can tell that they have been through some things.
David McClam
Maybe because I've been through abuse and things like that, I could just look at them and see the pain and the hurt that they've been through that now Oasis has helped them through.
David McClam
If you look below their photos, you will see a section that says Public Information right there they tell you that an extension was filed for their 2023 taxes and that filing is not due until November.
David McClam
They still got about a week before November kicks in from the time of this recording.
David McClam
And I don't know if it's the first week or the middle of the last week, but what that Says is Oasis of Northwoods Arkansas has did what they've complied with rs Go down right below that, you see their tax exempt letter.
David McClam
Also, you get the letter of good standing from none other than the Secretary of State.
David McClam
But the most important one is drop down one more.
David McClam
There is a hyperlink.
David McClam
The hyperlink reads 2022 tax return.
David McClam
If you click on that, you have the whole 990 that he's crying about.
David McClam
It's been there all this time.
David McClam
I've been on this page several times to make sure that my information is accurate.
David McClam
I'll go on here once every other day and refresh it.
David McClam
I did it before I talked to Anita, I did it after I talked to Anita, and I'm looking at it right now.
David McClam
The information on Oasis of Northwest Arkansas page has never changed.
David McClam
Witch hunt.
David McClam
The information was there.
David McClam
They just wanted you to believe that there is something more they had to do when they did not.
David McClam
Because if you read the RS code, it does state that they don't have to make it public.
David McClam
And it tells you exactly what you have to do if it's not public.
David McClam
And all he would have to do was walk into La Donna Humphrey's office and say, I want a copy of the 990.
David McClam
And by law she would have had to comply and give him that copy.
David McClam
Javier's been in Arkansas since all this been happening.
David McClam
He's just spineless and don't have the guts to walk in front of La Donna Humphrey face to face and say, can I get the 990?
David McClam
But he didn't have to do that because it's all right here.
David McClam
Furthermore, I want to clear up this whole entire thing.
David McClam
As you heard me talk to Anita, we talked about money and their bogus claims of how much money the women was paying per week and they was raising the costs and all of this stuff.
David McClam
Once again, Oasis of Northwest Arkansas is a platinum transparency award winner.
David McClam
And I'm sure 2024 is not the first year.
David McClam
Well, because of all that good transparency, if you clicked on the resident application button, they spill it all out for you right there.
David McClam
And I want to read you just this first part of the application because we've dealt with money issues like ladonna's having people to set up their own little venmos or whatever to give her money and the women's rates go up and they're not the same they're supposed to be.
David McClam
Well, let's clear that up because they tell the resident exactly what she should expect before she even fills this out.
David McClam
So it says OASIS of Northwest Arkansas is a transitional living community of women in recovery.
David McClam
OASIS provides accountability in a faith based environment, resource referrals, workforce development and structure.
David McClam
There is a shared housing cost of $135 a week and a $250 required deposit.
David McClam
We require all residents to comply with the following rules.
David McClam
Clean drug alcohol screenings, positive UA and or breathalyzed tests or drug screening will result in dismissal.
David McClam
Residents are required to attend three recovery meetings per week.
David McClam
Obtain a sponsor and meet regularly.
David McClam
Attend mandatory recovery meetings.
David McClam
Gain full time employment or attend school and part time employment.
David McClam
Abide by set curfew.
David McClam
This is only a brief description of the OASIS rules and requirements.
David McClam
A detailed resident handbook is provided upon approval before entrance into the community, we will run a background check.
David McClam
We do not accept sexual or violent offenders.
David McClam
All residents at OASIS of Northwest Arkansas must have completed inpatient treatment for drugs and or alcohol from a licensed facility.
David McClam
This treatment does not include detox or outpatient participation.
David McClam
They tell you right there.
David McClam
All laid out for you.
David McClam
So the women that went on the Pretend podcast to complain and give all these lies that they said, there is no reason to do that because the truth is right here.
David McClam
Remember we also talked about that they accused them of overcrowding, that they're just pulling all these women into the door because they want to stack money.
David McClam
Well, if you go to the oasis for women, nwa.org which is again always in Northwest Arkansas's webpage, and just scroll down.
David McClam
So at the very top, there's like a little shaded blue part.
David McClam
If you scroll down, it says oasis of Northwest Arkansas.
David McClam
I want you to move down to the white sentence that is there which says, currently Oasis of Northwest Arkansas will place all applicants on our waiting list as our facility is full.
David McClam
There is also another part that warns them that the waiting list is long.
David McClam
Okay.
David McClam
And I think that is on the application itself.
David McClam
I read it to you verbatim.
David McClam
Please note that Oasis of Northwest Arkansas currently has a relatively large waiting list.
David McClam
They're letting you know we have a large waiting list.
David McClam
You could be waiting for a little while because this is just how popular Oasis of Northwest Arkansas is.
David McClam
Women are coming not only from Arkansas, but for what I'm taking.
David McClam
And if I'm wrong, they can correct me, but from other parts of the country as well.
David McClam
The reason why I say that, I believe that is because it says it right here, technically in on their website, 95% of our beds are reserved for applicants from Benton Washington County Drug Court in the Benton County Department of Human Services.
David McClam
So to me, that's Saying we reserve most of our beds for women that is in our county, in the adjacent county, and for those that has went through Benton County's Department of Human Services and Drug court right there.
David McClam
So if I haven't proved to you guys that Oasis is who they say they are, I don't know what more to tell you.
David McClam
I do have other interviews I will play for you guys after we come back from the break.
David McClam
This is important because I wanted to touch on Oasis of Northwest Arkansas, and I wanted you to hear directly from someone that has not only been through the program, has their own house and choose to stay where she is in Oasis and is a manager, so that you can hear from an actual woman that's dealt with this, that knows the Donna Humphrey, that knows Oasis of Northwest Arkansas, that knows the board.
David McClam
I also want you guys to remember this, see, because this is what really makes me irritated.
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And this happens to victims of all kinds of circumstances, whether it's sexual abuse, domestic abuse, being an addict is.
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I feel that Javier Levin, the Pretend podcast has painted the women that go to Oasis of Northwest Arkansas as weak.
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And the reason why I say that is because the way that they worded that is almost like these women are chained down in a bed somewhere or they're locked into a room and they're being held and beat and they have no way of defending themselves.
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Women who have suffered something in life like being an addict, domestic abuse, sexual abuse, mental abuse is some of the most strongest women you ever want to meet.
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They gonna be the first ones that's gonna put you in your place.
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If you are abusing them, you know why that is?
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Because they've already been through the ringer.
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They've already been through hell and back.
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Most of them already know what death looks like.
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They've already faced death and won.
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So what else can you do to them at this point that can hold them down any further to keep them from fighting you back?
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These would be the women that would take ladonna Humphrey off themselves if she was being abusive, because they didn't come here to be abused.
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They came here to get help.
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And they've already felt ain't got nothing else to lose if you're going to take this from me.
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So let's go.
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These women can handle themselves, which why you all should know that everything they said is a lie to Oasis.
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I am proud to stand by you.
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You guys do awesome work from a man that has a daughter that is recovering.
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I've never been an addict of anything that I'm aware of.
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They always say that all of us has our own addictions because of things that we do, but nothing as serious as drugs, alcohol, things of that nature.
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My daughter is recovering from alcohol recovery as I know it is always a day by day situation.
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And if Javier labor, if it is true, and I believe a lot of things and they can get mad and threaten to sue, there is nothing you can see me for but saying I believe what I believe.
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And I do believe that women was offered money.
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Sorry, I'm just going to tell you like it is.
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I do believe that.
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I do believe everything KJ said and she's one of the ones they offered money to.
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That's sad.
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And I know that this is something that you guys, OASIS have to deal with all the time.
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Just know that there's people out here like myself, that believe in everything that you do.
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Just know that we are the ones that's going to stand behind you in this program.
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Everything that they've accused you of, I have debunked and many other people has debunked as well.
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So keep your head up, keep doing what you do, keep serving these women and know that I know, just like these women that's graduating from your program know, just like Anita knows, just like all of northwest Arkansas knows that if the doors of Oasis close tomorrow, we would have a lot of women that would be lost, would not have anywhere to go, and unfortunately may face death.
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So for all the people that pretend podcast that ever happened, the blood lies on your hand because you chose to drag Oasis into this.
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Because I guess Anthony Christopher's hell bent on causing ladonna her job.
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Well, that has not happened.
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And I do commend Oasis for standing behind their executive director, which they have from the beginning until now.
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So keep you guys head up, we will keep dispelling the lies as we have to, and thank you for me, for, and I'm sure from the audience as well, for helping these women regain their lives.
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In closing.
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So you guys, at the end, I would tell you what happened with that whole Eternal General thing.
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Basically nothing.
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There was nothing founded.
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There was no case.
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She pretty much closed it, I'm sure, as she laughed behind her desk.
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Because as you heard me read to you, and as you can see, you can't get the Platinum Transparency Award if you're not transparent.
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Like I told you at the beginning of this situation, they've had unwarranted investigations because people did want to move on them, even though of the fact that they've have these weekly, they got to do their Job, Right.
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If somebody's out here saying this is what's going on, they have to go investigate.
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And they did, and they found nothing.
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I do want to state what could happen.
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Now, we all know the Oasis of Northwoods Arkansas is clean.
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We know they do everything by the book and by the handbook that was written by the board and by our graduates.
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But there are some facilities out there in this world that does not do that.
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There are truly facilities out here in this world that does exactly what Javier labor accused Oasis of Northwest Arkansas of doing.
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Unfortunately, there are directors that is taking money.
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There are directors that is stacking houses because they don't feel like they will get caught because they want to put that dollar in their pocket.
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So with Javier labor running around telling these lies with his cohorts, it's like the little boy who cried wolf.
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We all know that story.
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He cried that their wolf was coming so many times that pretty soon everybody stopped believing him.
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But the day came when a literal roof was actually coming for him.
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And he cried for help and nobody came because he.
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He lied about it so many times that they just figured it was another lie.
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Now, this is the danger because if somebody was to call the AG and say, hey, this place over here in Arkansas is up here, they're abusing women and they're taking money and then the AG looks at and go, oh, it's this same dude again.
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I don't think that is true.
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We already been this way.
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Now you just put a bunch of women in jeopardy because of the lies in which you've told.
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Once again, I want to thank Anita for coming on the show.
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I won't let you guys know.
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You know, yes, I am a Christian.
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I stand firm on that.
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I'm not a perfect Christian.
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I do things wrong all the time.
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But the one thing I have done, which I should have done from the beginning, is I've given all of this to God.
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I pray for Javier labor and Anthony Christopher and all the little Reddit trolls on a daily basis basis.
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At the same time, putting my foot on the gas pedal for what I'm doing legally.
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I will let you guys know what that comes down to because I have meetings this week to start putting those things in play.
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There is no way I let this go.
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And I know I have a case.
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Everybody wanted to fight.
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Now they got one for me on a legal basis.
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But I pray for them every day because the Bible tells me to pray for my enemies.
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And the one thing that I have to always keep in mind, Ephesians 6:12 says, for we wrestle not against flesh and blood, but against principalities, against powers, against the rulers of the darkness of this world, against spiritual wickedness in high places.
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I have never in now almost 52 years of life faced the evil that I have faced dealing with, pretend and trying to exonerate a very innocent ladonna Humphrey.
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But you know what?
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Jesus biggest adversary was Satan.
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And now he's doing everything that he can because he knows that his days is numbered before God comes back and claims his own.
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And I feel that this is the same thing with the Pertinent podcast.
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Their days are numbered because God does not like ugly and God has promised me like he's promised you and everyone else that wants to believe that eventually in his time he will bring my enemies down to my feet.
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All right guys, I thank you once again for tuning in.
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I know it does not seem like it all the time time, but I need you guys to remember that love will always conquer hate and continue to remember no matter what you are going through right now, violence, no matter how much people try to push you to it is not the answer.
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Always think before you act and you will always make the right decision.
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I will catch you guys in the next one.
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God Bless and I'll see you the next time.
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Thank you for tuning in and we'll catch you on the next one.
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