This episode dives deep into the controversial figure of Anthony Christopher, who is presented as the mastermind behind a series of personal attacks against host David McClam. David emphasizes that he does not know Christopher personally, yet feels targeted due to his support for Ladonna Humphrey, a central figure in the unfolding drama. The discussion uncovers allegations of fraudulent activities linked to Christopher, including Medicaid fraud and dubious financial practices associated with a non-profit he founded. Listeners are introduced to Rocky, a former associate of Christopher, who shares his troubling experiences and highlights a pattern of manipulation and intimidation that Christopher has allegedly employed against others in the community. Ultimately, this episode serves as a powerful exposé of Christopher’s actions, urging the audience to consider the broader implications of these personal vendettas and the impact they have on those involved.
The podcast dives into a gripping exploration of the tumultuous relationship between David McClam and Anthony Christopher, a man embroiled in controversy and accusations of fraud and manipulation. McClam, serving as both host and investigator, provides a detailed account of the personal attacks he has faced as he stands up for Ladonna Humphrey, a key figure in a series of allegations against Christopher. The episode encapsulates the essence of truth-telling in the face of adversity, showcasing McClam's determination to expose the lies and defend those targeted by Christopher's campaign of intimidation.
Throughout the episode, listeners are presented with a rich tapestry of narratives that highlight Christopher's questionable past, including the fallout from his charitable initiatives that have raised suspicions and left a trail of unanswered questions. McClam skillfully intertwines personal anecdotes with broader themes of ethics and accountability, urging listeners to reflect on the moral implications of their choices. The episode serves as both a personal narrative and a societal commentary, challenging the audience to consider the importance of standing firm against injustice, even when faced with potential backlash.
The interview with Rocky adds a compelling layer to the discussion, as he recounts his own experiences with Christopher and the impact of his actions on the local LGBTQ community. Rocky's story serves as a powerful testament to the resilience of individuals fighting against systemic manipulation and fear. The episode concludes with a call to action for listeners, encouraging them to engage in their communities and advocate for those who have been silenced. McClam's commitment to uncovering the truth resonates strongly, making this episode a pivotal moment in the ongoing narrative of justice and accountability.
Takeaways:
Chapters:
00:00 - None
00:11 - Intro to We Are Not Afraid
01:35 - Setting the Stage: Who is Anthony Christopher?
01:39 - The Mastermind Behind the Pretend Podcast
04:54 - Investigating Anthony Christopher's Past
06:11 - Allegations of Fraud and Controversy
06:40 - The Legal Web: Lawsuits and Whistleblowers
10:52 - Rocky's Testimony: A Voice Against Anthony Christopher
31:13 - The Impact of Lies and Defamation
01:00:49 - Conclusion: A Call to Action
People, we don't know. The man we are going to talk about today, I do not know and he does not know me.
However, the way he and his surrogates are personally attacking me, you would think we have known each other for over 20 years. So I will give you insight today based on journalistic investigations and personal testimony.
What have I done to protect myself from these brutal attacks? Am I afraid of being harmed as I have been warned? Well, you will find out at the very end.
This is We Are Not Afraid, the podcast that exposes the truth among all the lies. I am your host, David McClam. You're listening to episode 11, the mastermind, Anthony Christopher. Hey, hey, hey, what's happening, everybody?
Welcome to the episode of We Are Not Afraid. Before we jump into today's episode, I want to let you guys know that as of this recording, we have about three days before this time to go vote.
Please make sure that you go out and make your voice heard, make sure that you are voting for the right reasons, and make sure that you are voting for our democracy. All right, as you heard at the top today, we are going to talk about Anthony Christopher.
He is indeed the mastermind behind the things that have been going on over at the Pretend podcast.
Now, people can say I'm making that up, but they themselves have said this directly on a live that they put on YouTube a while ago by stating that he is their fearless leader.
Also, there has been several things that he has tried to do by waging false claims at the Attorney General's office against Oasis, where his name was happily signed. I have also talked to some of these officials that said Anthony Christopher and Javier Lever called in.
So none of this stuff that I'm saying is speculatory at that point. He is indeed the mastermind behind the Pretend Podcast and everything that is going on with it at this point.
What I want to drive home to you today continuously is that I don't know Anthony Christopher and Anthony Christopher does not know me.
These attacks that he has had Javier Leyva and others wage against me is solely because I know Ladonna Humphrey and that I have chosen to stand up for her, unlike some people that's probably known her longer than me and could debunk all this stuff way easier than I can. They have chosen to do the one thing that is the easiest because it has no revocations and that is to do nothing.
But I want this to be perfectly clear to everyone within the sound of my voice.
And I'm going to prove that at the very end of this, it wouldn't have mattered if I knew ladonna Humphrey or not, just because I decided that I wanted to tell the truth and prove lies. Well, you automatically are target, and I think you're going to hear that resoundingly when you get to the interview portion of this episode.
But first, let me tell you a little background about Anthony Christopher.
Again, I know nothing about him, but I've done the one thing that my counterpart did not do, which is I went and investigated and I looked up everything that was publicly available to me so that I can tell you who the man that is behind this whole entire witch hunt on Donald Humphrey is.
Before I begin, I will say this again because this is what they keep putting out there, which is also, I think, the third bullet point of my lawsuit, by the way, which I'll tell you more about that at the end, which is ladonna Humphrey has absolutely nothing to do with this. What I'm saying to you today is all me.
It's all based on my investigations, and it's all going to be based on what's happening to me personally at the end of this. See, no one can tell my story but me, and I know what this is doing continuously and what they've tried to do to me.
So there is nothing that ladonna Humphrey can say about that because she's not me and she's not facing the attacks that I am facing, even though she is facing different ones from them of her own. So who is Anthony Christopher? Here is basically what I was able to come up with in Shawnee, Oklahoma.
Anthony Christopher, previously known as Anthony Rocco, once garnered attention through a nonprofit he founded called labor of Love Charities.
His hot dog ministry aimed to provide community support, and his work with the Shawnee Board of Realtors led to a proposed project for a homeless shelter in downtown Shawnee. The shelter was meant to feature a 24 hour chapel and an apartment for Rocco where he could live in the community with the poor.
Rocco, a recent graduate and general manager at a local barbecue restaurant, envisioned the shelter as a place of compassion, naming it Philomena House in dedication to Saint Philomena, a saint renowned for her miraculous intercessions. Plans for the shelter appeared in motion, with the building suggested a former funeral home equipped with a chapel at a third floor apartment.
The project promised to become Shawnee's first extended care homeless shelter. But things quickly took a turn.
Witnesses alleged that Rocco, now Anthony Christopher, left Shawnee abruptly, raising questions about unaccounted funds allocated to the shelter.
According to multiple accounts, Christopher's departure left behind suspicion and unanswered questions, including the whereabouts of the donated money. Since then, Christopher has faced several lawsuits.
A notable case involves Jennifer Powers, who accused him of fraud and ultimately settled out of court. Cordell Moore, another individual claiming Christopher defrauded him, has also brought a lawsuit against him.
Furthermore, individuals close to Christopher, including ladonna Humphrey, a former employee and foster parent at Absolute Pediatric Therapy, have raised additional concerns. Humphrey reportedly discovered what she believed to be Medicaid fraud within the organization and as a mandated reporter, reported her findings.
To avoid any association with illegal activities, multiple other whistleblowers, including Alicia Mooney from Trucks and Tiaras Preschool, Kerry Willard, Jana hines, Whitney Ballantin, Dr. Joel Funkhouser and Dr. Harvey, have come forward alleging similar instances of fraud.
Records show that these complaints led to a series of investigations into Medicaid fraud involving Christopher. And if you read the arrest warrant carefully, you will see that these people reported more fraud than ladonna Humphrey.
Humphrey's legal battle with Christopher included allegations that she has civilly defaulted, leading to a default judgment against her, though the ruling stemmed from her failure to produce a missing phone believed to contain evidence.
While the judge initially ruled against her, a detective later confirmed that her phone was indeed stolen, casting doubts on some of the accusations leveled at her. As more individuals have come forward, some express hope that others may obtain the justice they seek.
The situation highlights a complex web of lawsuits, alleged fraud and personal conflict, leaving a community questioning Anthony Christopher. I want to let you guys know I am in possession of Anthony Christopher's arrest warrant. I will post it to the website.
You guys need to see his arrest warrant, exactly what he was arrested for and all of the people that I just named that accused him and turned him in for Medicaid fraud.
I have read this document profusely and it further goes to prove that this is just the witch hunt on ladonna Humphrey because all of these people said that he committed Medicaid fraud and probably all of these people was willing to go to court and under oath state exactly what they said in this arrest warrant.
Now if you guys haven't heard my rant about that, I have myself personally written the attorney general down there in Arkansas and I've got some back and forth with him and the only thing he said to me is yeah, that he was never prosecuted. Cuz I pretty much accused them of dropping the ball. Nobody likes to be accused of dropping the ball legally, especially if you're lawyers.
And I said you dropped the ball. This guy from all everything I've read should be doing time right now in prison. In the response, I got backwards pretty much.
The case went dry because all of the witnesses supposedly disappeared. Now you've never heard of these kind of things before unless you're dealing with a mob like situation. But I digress.
You can read the arrest warrant that would be published there. Something that they don't want you to see.
And I'm also going to come back and let you know what's going on with me and Anthony Christopher and Javier Leva and what I am doing in the background, what I've done to protect myself physically as well as legally. But I think at this time it's important that you hear this very important interview. I want to let you guys know this at the top.
I don't know who this individual is either. Never spoken to him before I shot this interview. Everything you're about to hear is raw questions asked that day. Didn't rehearse.
He doesn't know anything. All he did was said he was tired of the BS that Anthony Christopher is doing to La Donna Humphrey and other people.
And he is tired of the things that Anthony Christopher did to him. And it was time that somebody spoke out.
If you listen very carefully, you will hear all kinds of similarities that we have been dealing with with the Pretend podcast for the last five and a half months. I'm gonna let you listen to this interview now.
Then I will come back and close it out with everything that I believe to be true in that interview and I'll tell you why that is from my own personal dealings. Now here is the interview with Rocky. So I guess we'll start here. How did you come across Anthony Christopher?
So I started at a bar that's gonna give you a full rundown. I started a bar as a patio server Rica live and worked my way up all the way to general management and then ownership.
A year of doing so, the previous owner took it out from under me and Anthony Christopher was that new person. He was the brand new owner.
I actually, which is really interesting, back In November of 2019, I actually found a message from him back in on Facebook trying to message the actual page right hold of Walter and Lee. And so it was kind of a very big giant conspiracy. That is weird. It is. And that's how I kind of met with him.
And that's honestly where it's all started. I didn't think it would go down such a rabbit hole when I whenever I first started, whenever it first happened. But it really did.
Him and Wanda and his mother Wanda. I'm like, it all got kind of pretty much to the point that it was very illegal.
They worked on my, under my permit for a little while for their liquor license and it just. The rabbit hole goes. So far, it's real.
I ended up kind of reaching out to a little bit of, you know, the Arkansas, Arkansas Democrat Gazette and Today in Fort Smith. And that's how me and Dennis actually got to talking. And the more I found out, the more I leave about this man.
So is it of your opinion that Anthony Christopher is not the astute person that this podcast is trying to make him out to be?
Oh, absolutely not. Oh, it's actually the point right now. In his four years running of this bar, no local will actually really go in that bar. That's a thing. It's a.
The bar itself now is a tourist trap. It's. It's just there for. It's a novelty, I guess you could say. There's a lot of people that have been hurt by there.
There's a lot of things that are happening on them that are not supposed to. When you're not safe. Being able to have a bottle of water, that's a problem. And it's, it's very, yes, it's very hush hush.
He has a lot of people in his pocket and it's, it's kind of sad, honestly. It's a regal live used to be a sanctuary for an LGBTQ community and now it's.
A lot of people are kind of dumbfounded because they don't know the difference. And he's very talking Eskimo into a refrigerator, you know.
So can I ask you, are you a part of the LGBTQ community?
Very much so. This because of me being part of the community and the bar, everything of the sort. Register Springs is very much an LGBTQ community.
It's more diverse community for anybody and everybody. It's not just singling out like, yes, you have to be gay, straight or bi to be or whatever.
It doesn't matter who you are, doesn't matter your color, your race, where you background from. It's a sanctuary when your family doesn't accept you. It is. Rico Springs is a place for misfits and outcasts and it's a beautiful town for that way.
I only ask you that question because it has also been alluded to and he stated this, I guess, to the court in La Donna's case, that Ladonna doesn't like him because he is gay. And that's funny to both of us because no matter we are Christians. No matter how we feel about it, a gay person is still a person.
And we've covered a case for five weeks that dealt with not one, but three lesbians. And we are not by any way homophobic.
So have you ever known him to use his standing in the LGBTQ community as saying that somebody's hating on him for that?
Oh, yes. It's actually hilarious for that fact, because he does. He uses that to his own benefit.
And he has messaged so many owners of Ricky Springs saying that they are trying to gay bash, they're going against them. They don't like him, they're trying to put him down. It's. It's actually hysterical, really, when it's hilarious.
When you really get down to it, he gets very suit happy. He'll. He's messaged many people. So there's like. So there's a place called Gravel Bar, the Wonder Bar and Lot, a lounge. It's a hotel, it's a motel.
And they are very much part of the community, have done a lot for the community. And he is against them.
100 anybody that crosses his path, and he doesn't like your comment or anything that you do, he's like, well, if you don't shut up, I'm gonna sue you. He's. He's really, honestly a bully. Like, he. At the end of the day, he is not who he portrays himself to be at all.
He's got, like, the cops in his pocket. He's got City hall in his pocket. The. The board, Rica Springs. He uses his. His way of life as such a gay bash situation.
Ladonna is so much for the community. There's so much for helping people. It's unreal. And he will use anything to save his case or to save his own skin.
In your dealings or talking to Ladonna Humphrey, has she ever given off any vibe to you that she was put off by you because you are a part of the LGBTQ community, or she didn't want to talk to you, or that she was fake to you in any way because of that?
Oh, God, no. No, not even a little bit. When I first met, like, actually got to talking with Ladonna, I was really surprised that he.
I mean, like, that she went through all this chaos, because that's what he will do to anybody. I'm like, I've been a victim of it myself. I'm like, he will put you through the ringer and this just because he can. It's not. It's not even out of.
Oh, you do this to me. I can be done. And hold a grudge. No. I'm like, he'll put people through the ringer.
Dana is never, not in any kind of shapely or form, ever made me feel bad about who I am whatsoever. Never. No. Has never ever said anything against the LGBT community. Nothing of the sort. That.
Whenever she's told me that before as well, that that's what he was saying, I think it's a joke. I think that's absolutely ish, because she's helped so many people right now, it's not even funny. That's what she does. She helps people.
So with the allegations of that Anthony Christopher is making, I don't know if you heard the Pretend podcast, but, I mean, she has her old. Her old co author who tried to extort her in genius books for money.
You know, and then the one mistake that he makes, which I laugh about, which this is why people shouldn't believe this stuff, is in a statement that he had posted, he said that for over 31 years, Ladonna Humphrey has been doing this to family. Now, if you backtrack, I don't know if you know how old La Donna is. She's about one year younger than me. She was 19 years old 31 years ago.
And this has become such a witch hunt because, I mean, they've taken out billboards or they've. They've, you know, advertised the whole nine.
Do you feel that Anthony Christopher is a dangerous person and this is retaliation on La Donna because she outed him for Medicaid fraud?
Oh, 100%. 100%. If. If he's able to have a way to be able to go back at you or poke at you, no matter how much stuff is done. Absolutely, absolutely.
This is 100 attack on her. It's more. So even if the whole case is over, he will still do anything he can to ruin somebody's life because he can.
That he has nothing but time on his hands and that's what he wants to do. It's not because he feels targeted. It's more so that he feels outed, and he's still mad about that. She's the one that spoke up 1%.
Do you feel that it's beneath him to pay somebody like the Pretend podcast to air this stuff?
No. Oh, no. That is not beneath him at all. That is something that's right up his alley.
So I need to ask you what is currently going on with the bar? I hear that there's a lawsuit in place. Can you tell us a little bit about that.
So whenever the lawsuit that is in place, it's been there for a good four years now. I filed back in October of 2020.
I would have filed earlier, but there was only a point of no attorney would touch it without less than a $10,000 retainer. That was definitely my situation. So I was able to talk to attorney and get them involved through Ladonna and everybody. I'm gonna take it up.
And it's still in lingo, unfortunately. It still is. I'm trying to further get it done and taken care of. Like, you know, it takes a 7, 500 to do depositions and stuff like that.
But it's still a very ongoing lawsuit. This is where it gets kind of crazy. So I got locked out of Eureka Live from the people that I was running my house from.
They owned Ozark Locking Key and I was running my house from them. And then the same people that will lock me on my own bar, they knew Walter Burrell back in the day, very much so. And so locked me on my own bar.
So it's very much still ongoing for the case. And it's been. When I lost the bar, I lost everything. I lost my mom's house, I lost my place to live.
I couldn't get a job for a year because of the convert, what they said around town and it being such a small town, it was very rich word of mouth.
It took me about a year, year and a half to actually get back into an actual situation, to actually be able to bartend again because of the lies that they said. There has been points in two when there's a small little rally that was done for me.
And they went on their own public Facebook page for Rica Live at that time. And there's pictures of all this. I have all the back, the background, like data to be able to back this up.
Said I was on drugs, said that we don't apply to methods. We don't do this. I even attacked my girlfriend at the time as well. Tapped her on her Facebook page, commented, just disgusting things. And that was.
That was the word of it.
And like, he, Christopher Anthony, even tried to really set my girlfriend into at the time to come down there, which we were fighting about that kind of situation because he tried to pull her down there. Like, what, can I help you? Can I help you save your land? Can I help you do these kind of things? And that's what it kind of boils down to.
So it's taking me four years to build back my life to even focus on this again. Like 100. I'm like, I had to build my life from scratch because of everything that's happened with Walter and Christopher.
There's actually like, see about six people that I'm actually suing. Six or seven people.
It's.
It's a kind of really, honestly, a.
Giant mess from what I've heard. This is him, his M.O.
it's kind of funny that just days before this hit piece on Ladonna, she got a strange text message that pretty much told her that her life was about to be ruined. And they've certainly tried to do that. I mean, they've come to everybody but me. And I've asked this question publicly.
I'm like, if she's such a dangerous person, I'm one of the most closest people to her because I work with her. Why hasn't anybody come and talk to me? And my thought pattern is because they knew I'm going to put up with the BS and I wasn't going to believe it.
So I was like a loss of breath for them.
Oh, I totally get that because that's the same thing with me. It's like he'll get too happy or like he'll text everybody. Like, I've yet to receive a text message from him, like, personally, because I know his.
I know his MO as well. Like, and I'm not afraid of him in any kind of shape. Waiting for him.
I'm like, I still have not stepped foot in that bar since the day I left that bar. I'm like, the day that I did, it would to totally make everybody cringe. Everybody would have an uproar. But it's that kind of thing. He.
He only ties people that he thinks he can get away with it, that they're vulnerable and stuff like that. That's. That's. That's his go to. If they can be a victim and they're easy to comb and easy to persuade. That is his M.O. that's who he'll go after.
If you're tough about it and you, you won't have any problem with him because he'll, he'll back down every single time. He's. He's a lot of bark, but no bite.
So when it comes to your bar, I'm assuming that by whatever means he used, he's had everything switched over to his name. So that. Does it appear that he owns the bar at this point?
Oh, yes. Oh, 100. It's been long enough now. Yes. So, like, he's been able to do their own permit and stuff like that. And you see, the.
The reason why Walter originally took over the bar to get back over is he was saying that I wasn't paying my taxes and wasn't paying certain things, and I got in trouble with my landlord at the time of the building, which that is absolutely not true, that I wasn't paying them. Well, I have bank statements. I have all these different statements, and it's all black and white where I was taking care of things.
And that was just an excuse for them. That's 100 what it was. And so he came. Christopher Anthony came in with. I don't know if it was cash or if he was sleeping with him or what.
What actually was the reason behind it, though. But that's how Christopher Anthony got his foot through the door.
It was when I started looking back at that whole year of 2019, I was just young and naive, and I trusted Walter. I look at him as a father figure and it was more so he was doing all these things just to get me out. I was.
I was just upon the game and I didn't realize it. I had no idea here. I always thought I was doing good. Like I. It's. Walter wanted payments also. He wanted cash payments throughout the year.
Supposed to give him two cash payments, about $13,000 each for the whole. For the whole year. So ended up giving him $26,000 in cash. I didn't get to my next payment, my next payday, which would have been April.
I got kicked out in February 29, March 1 of that year, and I didn't get to my next payment. So for the things that he was saying, which I have text messages for, I have all the documentation for, that's how he got he.
That's how Christopher Anthony weasel his way in. I don't know how he did it, but he did. Whether it was promises, sex, who knows? But then you just. You just don't know.
So to be fair to the Pretend podcast, because I am telling everybody, which is true, that they're only presenting one side of the story, even though the host, Javier Leyva, was sent all kinds of evidence, he has refused to use it.
Has anybody named Javier Leyva or anybody representing the Pretend podcast reached out to you to appear on the show to give your version of the story?
No, not at all. I reached out to Javier and I wasn't able to follow up through it. But no one's actually reached out to me at all. No.
A lot of people I've talked to that knows Anthony, Christopher has been afraid to talk to me. They've Cited reasons being that he's ruined their lives before or they think that he will do it again.
What has made you come and talk to me today on the record?
Because I'm not afraid whatsoever. I'm like, my life was ruined with Rica live years ago. What more can I lose? There's one once.
Once you lose everything and rebuild everything, then what is left to lose? I'm like, people are scared of him for reasons that they don't want to make either rock the boat or make waves.
And it's like, make waves because five years ago, six years ago in that town over Springs, this wouldn't have flown. Like, people are getting hurt. Like, that's the thing about it. Like, no one's talking about it. Like no one's.
There's too far between people that are talking about it, but they don't know. They don't know how to press forward. Me, I don't care. I don't care. Let him come after me. I'm just like, what more can he possibly do it?
Like I said before, he's a lot of bark, but no, no bite. It's. He's not this big scary man. He just got.
He uses everybody else's money and everybody else is afraid of him because they think that's they're going to. He's going to ruin their business or anything, sort of. I don't live in Re Springs anymore. Come after me.
Like, I hate to say that, but it's just like it, it comes down to that. You can't fix a problem if no one acknowledges the problem.
And back in five years ago, we wouldn't allow the people to get hurt like the way they are getting hurt in Re Springs right Now. There's over 20 different cases and reports to the hospital of people going to the hospital after visiting that bar.
There's been two deaths surrounding his bar and Magnetic Valley Resort.
Wow.
Yeah. That's the thing. No people just going to sleep and never waking up.
So in closing, is there anything that you would like to say lastly about Anthony Christopher and two or about ladonna Humphrey?
Ladonna has been a victim of so much and she tried so much. And I only hope nothing but the best for her.
And I really hope that she follows through and stay strong, you know, I know this man has haunted her for a long time and he's haunted quite a few people. And how he's gotten away with so many things, I'll never know. Definitely send my love out to her as well.
As Christian Anthony goes, karma will Come back one day, whether it is through his own means or not, he's being investigated. Don't trust him. Don't trust anything you can about that man, like in any kind of shape waiting for him. It's a facade. It is an image.
It is only to get gain what he wants, period. That man is a snake in the grass if I've ever seen one in my life. And I, I don't have hatred to many people or don't like many people.
I wouldn't trust that man as far as we go through him. And it's, it's cowardly and like how he does to the town, how he does to people. And he's, He's. He's dangerous. Dangerous as far as the.
There's nothing really below him. There's not much that he will not do to ruin somebody's life.
Well, Rocky, I thank you today for coming to talk to me. It has been very valuable to La Donna's case and we wish you well. And keep us posted on how your lawsuit turns out.
Oh, 100%. Thank you for having me.
There's interviewer Rocky. I'm not going to recap everything because if you guys want to go back and listen to this again, I think this is the interview that you need to hear.
If you were paying attention, there are a lot of similarities and things that Rocky said that exactly happened to ladonna Humphrey. He even made mention to you about that he would do almost anything just to have the outcome in which he wants.
That he would do anything to ruin anybody's life. Here's why I believe that Rocky was not the only person that I have spoken to. Now before I go on, I want to let you guys know this.
Everything that happens, by the way, is ladonna Humphrey. I read an email that I had received from KJ on the last episode and of course what they go say, they went all over ready to talk about some.
Well, Ladonna Humphrey is KJ. Ladonna Humphrey wrote David McLam. Let me tell you guys this flat out. KJ is a real person. I know the real person's name.
They just don't want to use it. Not ladonna Humphrey. So suck it up. It is true, at least according to her, that they offered her $500 to come and talk BS about Ladonna Humphrey.
Furthermore, she's not the one that has told me this.
I have it on very good authority all the people that Anthony Christopher has been calling around Arkansas, he's called every venue that he's found out. Ladonna Humphrey has been going to speak at in hopes of getting her speaking engagement canceled.
He's called and threatened people with, you need to go look at the Reddit thread. Listen to this podcast. A couple of people has even come out and said that he basically was almost threatening them to do things.
This is real time, people. Arkansas, where they all live, is very, very small.
It is so small that what nobody seemed to know is, I have a niece that also lives in Arkansas, and she called because I guess she was into the other podcast. A break came. Pretend came on, and they was talking crap about her uncle, and I got a phone call. This is how small it is in Arkansas.
I'm not saying allegedly because of the fact that I know these things to be true, because the people has called other people and said, I've gotten this call from them.
I have seen the text messages of Anthony Crisp and Javier Leyva continuously texting people, asking questions like, is ladonna Humphrey with their organization? And they want to ask questions. And then when that person tells them to kick rocks, they come back and try to double down.
One person came out and flatly said, if you keep contacting me, I'm calling the police. This is how ruthless this gets. It isn't an effort to bring it down. So why do I believe everything Rocky says?
Well, folks, because it's happening to me. I think it's time that you guys know the full extent of what Anthony Christopher and the Pretend podcast is doing and is continuously doing.
And I'm gonna tell you why they're doing it, and then I'm gonna tell you where we're going from illegal standpoint. Let's tackle this one first. In the interview, I asked Rocky something to the effect of, does Anthony Christopher use being gay to his own advantage?
Something to that degree? And Rocky said, oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. He does it all the time.
He calls all these groups and organizations and pretty much says that they don't want nothing to do with him because he's gay or they're coming down on him because he's gay. This is the car that he proves. Well, this car now is getting Anthony Christopher or will Javier Lever sued.
That's bullet point one in my defamation lawsuit. Let me tell you how that's defamation. First, let me tell you what defamation is.
Defamation is making a statement against somebody that is untrue because you are doing it maliciously to try to hurt them personally, professionally, or both. So it's got to be something that is unequivocally false.
I'll Give you an example of what I cannot sue for, since they want to bring up that I've been married five times all over the podcast and on their Reddit thread. That's a true statement, okay? It is something that can be proven, and I cannot sue them for that.
However, if they came out and said something like, I was divorced because I beat one of my ex wives to the point to where she almost died and I put in the hospital several times and there's photos, that now is a lie because I've never touched anyone I was married to. And you cannot prove that that is now defamation. Just to give you that example, here is the defamation part.
The moment that Anthony Christopher and Javier leave, he did went into their precincts and said that I said that I was going to come to North Carolina, drag Javier Leva out of his house and beat his ass. Then when they said that, I stated that I was going to contact and send the Westboro Baptist Church to Eureka Live to beat up gay people.
Both of those statements are defamation. Both of them are lies. Both of them they can prove, and so can I, that I never said it. And both of them are false.
Therefore, basis number one of my lawsuit already have my lawyer working on it. They've already read it and seen it. And then it made it worse for Mr.
Christopher because he doubled down on this in writing, which is now libel, because he's put out two statements and one that stated that he was afraid for his life and that people was coming to beat him up.
Now, he didn't have to say my name in that point because I think he referred to me as ladonna Humphrey and her surrogates, but because he already made a false police report on it because Javier labor ran his mouth on the Internet and because Anthony Cris was writing this, all you gotta do is take the two dots and put them together and leads back to me. That's defamation. Again, this guy does not know me. So he's went around using that.
And now that can ruin my relationships professionally with some gay people. I've had some gay people call me and want to turn me off because this is what Anthony Christopher said. All of this can be proven in a court of law.
And I've already turned over all of those things. Other things is he's had his Reddit trolls troll me profusely.
They've left negative false reports that I'm trying to get Apple take down now on all of my podcasts. And unlike Javier Leyva, I carried a 5.0 solidly for almost three years.
Therefore, it's very easy for Apple to look at that and say, there has never been this problem until this happened. And so once we go through the process, those will come down. Every other day, I'm getting negative one stars over at We're Not Afraid.
I got 24 of them in one day. Well, now that's bullet point number two. That constitutes as harassment.
Not only have they done that, they've also tried to go after every one of the hosting services that I host on, lie to them, and try to get me taken down. Let me tell you the lie that Anthony, Christopher and Javier Leva is telling these people.
They're saying things like, I'm harassing them daily, that I have threatened to come and beat them up, that I have taken out multiple URLs under the name Pretend Podcast, and I'm pointing it to my domain. That is not only harassment, it is also now defamation and liable.
So now that's bullets one and two, because since they said I'm doing these things, they cannot prove them, but I can. I have never owned another domain ever to deal with Pretend Podcast, the one I was accused of, which is why his lawyer dumped him.
Which is I proved to you, I think, what episode eight, when I. When I said caught in the Lie, when you heard his lawyer say, the lawsuit has not been filed.
Oh, yeah, Casimir dumped him because he found out what was going on. And I proved to him not only did I not ever own this domain, but he has a client that's weaponizing attorneys.
So when I talked to my attorney, the first question is, can you prove the domains you own? And I said, yes, I can. And I sent that list, which nothing to do with Pretend Podcast is on there.
And no pretend podcast.comorgs.gov whatever you want to. It is pointed at me. And if they are, I don't own them.
People can buy whatever domain they want and point it anywhere, but this is now getting them illegal hot water. What else? For somebody who doesn't know me, they've attacked my wife. They've stalked my wife's Facebook, they've taken her photos.
So now let's go to another part of the lawsuit, which is called pain and suffering, because now he's bringing other people into that. That's causing them pain and suffering, which means it causes me pain and suffering, because I got to think about this stuff now more than I want to.
And now I have family members that's in fear that I'm going to get hurt because there has been stories that I cannot use. I'm not Javier Leva, but I have all this stuff recorded and if I have to, I will give it to an attorney.
I have stories from different people saying the same thing. They won't speak out against Anthony Christopher because the fact that they're afraid Anthony Christopher has ruined their life.
In his seven plus eight plus nine plus years, Anthony Christopher has threatened to harm them. There is a couple of deaths right now that's running around that people speculate that Anthony Christopher has something to do with.
These are things that's all told to me. However I was told, I'm gonna tell you this stuff, but if you record it, you can't use it.
I'm not giving you my permission because I don't want my name out there. And the minute he hears my voice, he's gonna know who I am. I have it in a file, folks. I don't gotta make this stuff up.
I'm just a journalist with integrity, unlike Javier Lea. And there is two people on that podcast that he did outright out. They told him not to use their name, not to use their clips, and he did.
I'm not that person. But just know I do have this. I have a three hour conversation with someone that's just giving me all the dirt that I can't use.
Rocco was the only one out of about 40 people that gave me permission to use his interview. Let me ask him why he came forward and you heard his reply. I have gotten several emails saying, bring Anthony Christopher down. We need justice.
Anthony Christopher is not who you think that he is. But again, though, is Ladonna Humphrey writing me all these emails, by the way? Because that's what they're going to tell you.
I tell you on good authority it is not. I have the full names of all of these people. I'm just not going to release them because they asked me not to.
But I guarantee you this, the moment that I get a call from them says, you know what, I want you to release everything I told you. Oh, it's going to be an episode. But I think this right here is damning enough. This is why I had to be taken down.
This is the one interview they did not want you to hear. And there's another one coming because I did do a full interview with Dennis McCaslin.
No matter what they say about that man, he's been dealing with Anthony Christopher for years. He's been at every trial that's there. You're going to hear exactly from him, what he had to say.
Only two people that wanted to speak out against Anthony Christopher because they are afraid. What else is there? Oh, I'm cloud everything under the book, my name has been McLean.
He's encouraging these sycophants of his, which is everything from felons to ex military. I mean, some of these guys has some disgraceful records because I've seen them.
No one knows who all that I know, but maybe they should take the advice of one of his little followers who just wants to go get some good sleep. That should tell that person that I know who they are.
The point of the matter is all of these people are trolls that are going to get them all in trouble. Reddit as well as Spotify is in my lawsuit. Spotify gives him the hosting privileges to actually Blair this stuff.
And before he sits there and laughs and says it's not, Spotify is Megaphone. I know that, but Spotify owns Megaphone. They've already been contacted by myself letting them know that I am filing lawsuit.
Reddit also following lawsuit. So I want to give notice everybody in that thread, the moment that this suit goes forward, ain't nothing ready could do for you.
Because all of those records I'm having subpoenaed, every one of them from that thread. Reddit can keep playing dumb if they want to, but they know that that thread violates every term of service policy they have.
And now I'm going to sue them because they're allowing me to be almost docs. They've spread it defamation about me, ladonna Humphrey, they've attacked ladonna Humphrey's family as well as my own.
All of the things that they write in their terms of service they go against. So when they are subpoenaed for the records by a judge, ain't nothing ready can do.
And everybody in that thread, the ones I know and the ones I don't know, who's in there, we're all going to know. So just to let you guys know that. What else? I think that's about it. I mean, almost doxing me, harassing me daily.
They went to every one of my hosting services. Oh, let's go back to that real quick. If I go on, here's why they took a campaign out against me.
So several days ago I got notified that I guess Javier Label on a campaign on his Instagram or Twitter, whichever one he's making all these videos about B. And then he decided to call B out.
That's because Captivate told him to go kick rocks because I had already written Captivate with all the proof and I said, here you go.
You're going to get a contact from somebody named Javier labor that's going to tell you a bunch of lies because he doesn't want this podcast to succeed because it's full of truth that rebuts everything that he said. Sure enough, the moment it went up, who wrote Captivate? Captivate told them that they ran it by their legal team.
And the things that he claimed that I did, I did not do. And therefore, unless there is a court order, he will not remove it. Now, let me tell you how you get a court order for that.
You have to go to court in front of a judge, and the judge had to determine that I did what he said that I did, and it's threatening and needs to come down. Not going to happen. Why? Because I never did what they said that I did. But I digress. So back so hosting companies, Captivate told him to kick rocks.
He didn't want to tell you guys that that's where the campaign came from.
And then he went on to say something like, I keep saying that he said all these things wrong and he needs me, you know, if I think that I did that, all I got to do is tell him and he'll take it down. Pardon my French, but that is the biggest pile of. Let me tell you why.
If you go back over the episodes of this podcast, I've at least called out Javier labor three different times. I've offered him to sit in front of me on a virtual monitor and we could go over the case. I've asked him to debate the case.
I even told him that if I was wrong, I would pull down my whole podcast. I have heard 129,000% nothing. I even opened up the same challenge to his little fans. I call the cult, the Trolls and Anthony Christopher.
Has anybody contacted me? No. But they can go and sit on the prosecutors and tell their lies, right?
If you listen to all 11 episodes of this podcast so far, I have spit nothing to you but truth. And they keep using this. He says he has proof, but he has none. Go to we are not afraid podcast.com and see all the things that I've already posted.
I'm not posting everything at one time until I do that episode. But you got Alicia Lockhart's whole file up there that I posted. You got what came from the RRS when it came to the arson.
You're gonna have this arrest warrant sitting up there too. So where's my non proof?
So that's why to that, obviously, because he had to try to shut me down because Captivate won't do it, because there's no reason for them to do it, and because I didn't do anything that he says that I did. So beyond that harassment, I think that's it. So my point about this is this. If I would have turned up and just said that ladonna Humphrey was.
If I said she's the worst person to ever live, they would all love me.
If I was to turn my back and be very sincere about that and prove to them that I don't like ladonna Humphrey anymore and that everything they said was true, everything would turn around quickly for me. They would forget my name. They would stop the campaigns against me. They would probably go back and start rating me five stars.
They would say I'm the world's best podcaster that ever walked to earth and live because I've done the one thing that Anthony Christopher is trying to do, get everybody turned on ladonna Humphrey.
But because I will not, and because I have the proof that she's innocent and because I've talked to all the people I needed to talk to, and because I have all the files that I need to have, which is the same evidence and proof that was sent to Javier Lea, and because I am the one person standing in their way, opposition wise, that they can't get rid of, this is the campaign they sent against me that's going to end all of us in the court of law with me suing them because it's already underway. So you think about if he would do this to a person he does not know. Again, there's no personal vendettas here. I don't know him. He didn't know me.
The only way he knows me is because I decided to wage this podcast. That is all, folks. That is it. I think I proved that.
If you listen to the whole interview I did with Javier Leva, Javier Leva didn't know me from a can of paint. And you may be asking yourself, why is this so personal to Javier Leyva who didn't know me or ladonna Humphrey?
Well, we have proof that this has been going on for months, but I digress with that one. Just think about that proof that this was going on long before Javier Lever even called me or I called him, I should say.
You guys need to take everything I have shared with you today to the heart. This is truly who Anthony Christopher is. You can look all this stuff up for yourself publicly. Rocky didn't come on here to lie to you.
And this guy is still embroiled in a legal battle over the club that Anthony Christopher stole from him. He gave you the whole entire context. He's even telling you that that club, Eureka Springs Live, is not even being supported by the locals.
That he's turned the LGBTQ scene in Eureka into something it should not be. You heard it for your own self. So let me tell you what I've done to protect myself. So that's what I have done.
Legally, I am filing lawsuits right now. These things move slowly. We got to put all the pieces in play. But Anthony, Christopher and Javier leave.
I want you to listen to everything I'm saying right now. It's coming. Ain't nothing you can do to get around it. It's coming. You guys are the dumb ones that keeps posting this stuff.
Well, I'm going to hit you where it counts in the pocketbook.
I'm going to restore whatever little piece of my name you damage because it wasn't much, but because of the fact that Anthony, Christopher, you, and maybe to a degree, Javier Lever is using being gay to weaponize that against me. Oh, no, no, no, no, no. We're not going to have that again. I've stated I have gay friends, I got gay family members. They know where I stand on it.
But at the end, we're all people would never do anything to hurt them and definitely would not go try to hurt up a whole entire club full of people that is gay. I'm one of the biggest minorities, you know, because I'm black. These are the same things they've done to us for years with slavery.
And let me bring up the Breonna Taylor's of the world, the justice that we have to fight for because cops just break into our doors and start shooting black people with no knock warrant. That's false. And then, oh, another black person gone. Sorry, we'll just go ahead and we'll try to handle this in court. And then they get away with it.
So don't preach that rhetoric to me. Trying to use being homophobic. Oh, my gosh, that's not going to work for you. But that's what he's tried to do, and that's what the lawsuit's over.
So you need to take everything that you guys have heard to heart. This is who he is. This is the episode that they did not want you to hear.
This is why it was important to get me shut down down, which they were not successful in doing because now you are hearing this for yourself. Here's the second piece of what I have Done. And I want everybody's ears to perk up. For one, I'm not afraid of nobody.
I think to a degree this is what irritates my wife about me the most. Because I'm not afraid of anybody. I don't back down from anybody, especially when I'm right. If I'm wrong, I will tell you that I'm wrong.
But you're not going to bully me and you're not going to push me away from anybody either that I'm trying to protect from lies. So Apple gave us a gift. The gift was iOS18. In that download for your phone, they gave you a thing called send later.
It is a way to where now you can schedule a text message. I have what I call the 1530 text message. Here is how that works. I have a text message to be sent to my wife within 15 days.
If I don't stop, that's from sending. On the 15th day, a text message drops to her phone with instructions of what to do next.
The first part of it says, if you're getting this, I'm either no longer among the living or I am somewhere where I am incapacitated, like a hospital. So I need you to stop crying for about five minutes and do what I'm telling you to do in this message.
Within that message it is going to give her the instruction that if I died or got hurt for any other reason that she feels like is not connected to Anthony Christopher Javier Leyva, then she needs to make sure that that is known and that another E and that another text message will drop to her in 15 days.
But if she knows that this is all due to this situation, she has the instruction of an email that all she has to do is go into my computer, go into a tab that I constantly have opened that email and press send within that email to the Eureka Springs Police Department, to the North Carolina Police Department, to the Palmdale Police Department, to my contact over at the FBI when I filed my FBI report, to a bunch of friends and family and other people that don't need to be named here, it's going to drop. Everything that I have acquired in this investigation.
Full names, addresses, phone numbers, links, anything that I think pertain to help the police and FBI figure out why I'm dead or why I'm maimed in that 30 day text message is basically a follow up with her to say, if you're getting this message now, it's been 30 days since I have been gone, therefore I hope you've done A, B, C or D and it gives her a couple other things in which she needs to do.
But that text message not only goes to her, but it goes to all of my children, as well as some friends and a couple of police friends of mine that I used to work with that are now officers. Now I have an alarm set. Every 14 days, my phone will give me an alarm that says reset the messages. So I will go in there and change the dates.
All it takes is for me not to answer that alarm one time. And this brings all this stuff in motion again. I'm letting you guys know it has nothing to do, that I'm in fear.
My family is, my friends are, I'm not. So this is for their benefit, but I'm letting the world know if anything happens to me. I don't have any enemies.
I don't have anyone that wants to come out and try to kill me.
If you want to use the beef I have on my neighbor almost two years ago, that dude barely speaks to me and he still lives next door, so you can count him out. There is nobody in this world that hates me or anything else other than Anthony Christopher, Javier Leva and their cult.
All it takes for me not to answer my text message in 14 days. And I put whatever in motion that I have with this email and these text messages going out to all these law enforcement officers.
And if you know anything about true crime, they would be the first persons that they will look at. Because it is proven not only on a national podcast, but now by these messages that they could be the ones.
And anybody can make fun of that if they want to. But I'm telling you, based on what I have heard, based on what people speculate, Anthony Christopher has done.
One of the ladies that is mentioning his arrest warrant is dead. Mysteriously dead. A one person car accident, dead. No signs that the car accident should have ever taken place.
And everybody started pointing some fingers, I guess, at Anthony Christopher. I don't know about all of that. That's all speculatory because I can't prove it. So I don't hone down on that.
But I'm just saying there's people in his own community that is pointing fingers saying we shouldn't deal with this dude because we're afraid of what he can do.
If you listen to anything that's been going on the pretend podcast, if you listen to Rocky, if you listen to a little bit, I told you what he's trying to do to me, somebody he doesn't know, I think you gotta put two and two together. And at the end of times, you get four. Now again, I'll give you this one caveat one more time. All of this could go away.
I've said this before, so Anthony Christopher, I'll speak to only you directly this time. All of this could go away. Your lawsuits can be gone. You don't gotta hear from this podcast anymore. You're the one that's keeping this unpeaceful.
All you got to do. And I said, I said before, I'll say it again.
I'll take the one thing off the table that I know that you and your sicker fans is incapable of doing, which is waging a public apology to ladonna Humphrey first and foremost, saying that you knew all the stuff was not real and it is a lie. And apologize to me. We'll take the puzzle off the table. Just make everything else go away. Take down season 18, kill your Reddit thread.
All of this is in my lawsuit, so I'm guaranteed you're gonna lose. I give you that one last time. But if you want to keep going the way that you're going, you keep having your trolls follow B.
You keep having them trying to send me fake Facebook report or request. Think I'm going to let them into my profile so you guys can go and rip things off like you've done.
You keep harassing the people that sponsors or that host my podcast, then we're going to all see this end in the big wage court of law and I'm going to give them everything that I have. And then this will be another case that you're going to lose.
Because let's face the fact, you guys all got reactive when you found out that ladonna Humphrey has now filed her appeal. I've read the appeal. That appeal is damning to you. And everything in there says to me, you ain't winning this one. The pill is going to be granted.
And that's what I'm just me reading it and reading how it was written and what all the evidence was based upon. The same document that I'm still working with law enforcement in Arkansas. Don't worry about that. That says that you allegedly paid Dolly Duncan.
Don't know if that's true, but we're going to let the judiciary system in Arkansas handle that. But if you couple that with everything that's going on here, it looks mighty real. So you want this all to go away. That's all you gotta do.
Leave ladonna Humphrey alone. Stop calling all her venues. Jealousy is a very bad ass drug. And the jealousy runs rampant through you, Javier, and all your little friends.
All you gotta do is leave us alone. This is all go away. If not, see you in court. All right, guys, so you will get one more bonus episode.
It's going to be the interview that I did with Dennis McCaskill and there'd be no bells and whistles. I just want you to hear his interview that he did.
I want you to hear it from another person that's getting attacked by Javier Leva and Anthony Christopher.
I also want you to hear the things that he talked about that he's been going through for the last several years, not only with Anthony Christopher, but also with Patty Rush and a few other people that was named in our interview after that one.
You definitely will not hear back from us again until after the New year unless there is some type of breaking news that comes out that I feel you need to know right now. But right now, as we stand, the next time you will hear from me. Besides, the Dennis McCaslin interview will be sometime January 2025.
So with that being said, let me say once again, as of this recording, three days before we vote, make sure your voices is heard.
Merry Christmas, Happy Holidays, Happy New Year, and always remember that even though it does not seem like it all the time, love will always conquer hate. I'll catch you guys on the next one.
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