Jan. 25, 2025

The Truth Always Comes to Light

The Truth Always Comes to Light
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The Truth Always Comes to Light

David McClam delves into the theme of betrayal, particularly focusing on the complexities of trust and deception in personal relationships. He introduces the concept of 'foreign betrayal,' where an individual you trust turns against you, often motivated by financial gain, fear, or the desire to maintain friendships. McClam emphasizes the importance of recognizing the potential repercussions for those who choose to betray others, questioning whether they consider the evidence that could be used against them. This discussion serves as a prelude to a more personal narrative surrounding the case of Ladonna Humphrey and Kaya Penfield, underscoring how betrayal can manifest in unexpected ways, especially within the realm of true crime advocacy.

The episode takes a sharp turn as McClam recounts his experiences with Kaya Penfield, who initially sought his help for her cousin's case, Deanna Stevenson. As tensions mount, he reveals how Penfield's actions led to a public vilification of McClam, prompting a stark reevaluation of their relationship. He details how her failure to disclose critical information and her manipulation of the narrative not only undermined their mutual trust but also jeopardized the quest for justice in Deanna Stevenson’s case. McClam’s frustration is palpable as he articulates the ramifications of Penfield's betrayal on his work and the broader implications for the advocacy community.


As he prepares to take a bold step forward, McClam announces his plans to travel to Arkansas for a series of exclusive interviews, vowing to uncover the truth about the allegations surrounding Oasis, a facility in Arkansas. He calls upon those who have accused him to meet him face-to-face, challenging them to confront their claims directly. The episode wraps up with a promise of accountability and transparency, as McClam indicates that he will erase all traces of the Stevenson case from his podcast if the integrity of the information cannot be guaranteed. This commitment to truth and justice underscores the central message of the podcast: betrayal may bend but will never break the pursuit of truth.

Takeaways:

  • Betrayal often comes from those we trust the most and can involve multiple motivations.
  • The importance of keeping evidence, or 'receipts', in case of potential betrayal.
  • When someone shares misleading information, their intentions and integrity should be questioned.
  • Transparency and truth are essential, especially when dealing with sensitive cases like Deanna's.
  • Kaya Penfield's actions have raised concerns about her integrity and the accuracy of her claims.
  • David McClam emphasizes the need for accountability in the face of deception and manipulation.


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Chapters

00:00 - None

00:00 - Understanding Foreign Betrayal

04:34 - The Unfolding of Deanna Stevenson's Case

14:53 - The Birth of 'We Are Not Afraid'

19:10 - The Fallout of Betrayal

28:02 - The Upcoming Journey to Arkansas

36:47 - The Unfolding Truth: Season Two Preview

Transcript
David McClam

Foreign betrayal is when someone that you've trusted decides to stab you in the back.


David McClam

Sometimes the things that they portray you over is money or friendship or utterly being afraid of someone.


David McClam

I think in this particular case, it could possibly be all three.


David McClam

But when somebody betrays you and spits untruth, that person should think about, does the person I'm betraying have receipts?


David McClam

Does it have any backlash?


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Will they expose me?


David McClam

Well, this is such a case.


David McClam

But all I can say to those who she decided to side with is, you should always watch the dog that is carrying the news.


David McClam

This is We Are Not Afraid, the podcast that exposes the truth among all the lies.


David McClam

I am your host, David McClam.


David McClam

You are listening to Exposing the Witch Hunt of Adonna Humphrey.


David McClam

Episode 14, the Truth Always Comes to Light.


David McClam

Happy New Year, everybody, and welcome back to We Are Not Afraid.


David McClam

Of course We Are, the podcast where we seek truth, expose lies, and refuse to back down.


David McClam

Of course.


David McClam

I am your host, David Mlam.


David McClam

Today we have a lot to unpack, so strap in because the truth always comes to light, no matter how hard some people try to keep it hidden.


David McClam

All right, so stay tuned to the end of this one.


David McClam

I'm going to tell you what the future of this podcast is, what I am about to do, and we'll go on with that and we'll let you know exactly what's going to go on here in the next few weeks.


David McClam

But let's jump into this one as I promised you.


David McClam

And I know a lot of you guys have missed me because let me see the emails I got.


David McClam

We scared you off.


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We win.


David McClam

We scared you off.


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The Internet, bro.


David McClam

Where you at?


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That means you guys don't listen.


David McClam

The last one I got, oh, it's the end of January.


David McClam

You said you'd be back in January.


David McClam

I never gave a date.


David McClam

So I'll be back in 2025.


David McClam

But all this proves to be is you guys have no life because you guys have been spitting this stuff all over Christmas break and everything else.


David McClam

I didn't think not one ounce about anybody in that Reddit thread.


David McClam

I didn't think about Javier Leave or Anthony Christopher.


David McClam

I was on winter vacation.


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The only thing I thought about was working until I had those days off and spending Christmas and New Year with my family.


David McClam

So I want to thank all of you that I'm so important that you guys couldn't do without me for the last three months.


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But listen, I said I would be back.


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Here I am.


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No one scared me of anything.


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From what I'm not Scared of any one of y'all.


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None of y'all.


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So how did you win?


David McClam

You won nothing.


David McClam

A person that wins something means that there was something to win, right?


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So are you trying to say that you won the truth battle because you didn't?


David McClam

There was nothing to win.


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I just went and took a break.


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And to prove one, I had a family go spend time with.


David McClam

But the other one was to prove that you guys just could not stay off of it and could not be quiet.


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So here we go.


David McClam

I promised you guys the first episode that we were going to talk about and I was going to drag Kaya Penfield through the mud.


David McClam

Kaya Penfield decided that she wanted to post some text messages that was supposedly supposed to prove that.


David McClam

Indeed, Ladonna Humphrey is writing my scripts and we was all in it together.


David McClam

Well, I guess she seemed to forget I have a phone too, and I have text messages and we're going to get into a little bit of that.


David McClam

And also that you guys should watch the dog carrying the news because how else did you guys think that I knew what was going on?


David McClam

Step by step.


David McClam

When you guys tried to stalk Ladonna Humphrey at CrimeCon, I got that proof too.


David McClam

But let me just kind of give you guys a little bit of a background.


David McClam

So many of you have followed the journey of the case that I did involving Deanna Stevenson.


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Deanna Stevenson is Kyle Pensfield's cousin.


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It is a case that I poured my heart into and dedicating countless of hours to research, interviews and advocacy.


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And I believe in getting justice and giving Deanna a voice and in helping a family that was in pain.


David McClam

If you don't know a lot about Deanna Stevens case, the long and short of it is she was estranged from her then lover, went over to the house.


David McClam

They accused her of coming over in a drunking mess, pretty much.


David McClam

And that she jumped on people.


David McClam

If I'm just giving you the quick synopsis, basically they were.


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She was accused of being aggressive that Ollie Plunkett supposedly shot several warning shots in the air, but because she feared for her life and ended up shooting and killing Deanna.


David McClam

Now, I've had my own personal thoughts about it, but let's continue.


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So that was what Deanna Stevenson's case was.


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Now, what you need to understand is I did not go seeking after this case.


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Kaya Penfield came seeking after me.


David McClam

We were both a member of a website called Popage.


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Popage.


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Excellent, excellent service.


David McClam

What they do is they put people together.


David McClam

So if you're an author and you're looking to be interviewed by someone interviews author.


David McClam

They will from the algorithm put you together, say, hey, these are people that you should rate, or they will pop up in your box and you can decide to contact them or not.


David McClam

It is also one of the only services that I know of that actually pays you for completing interviews.


David McClam

Uh, so that's how I met Kaya.


David McClam

Kaya actually reached out to me.


David McClam

She had told me that she was doing a podcast about her cousin and the name of the podcast was called Standout Ground.


David McClam

She needed to get some more eyes and ears on it and wanted to know if I was interested.


David McClam

So after I read through everything that she sent me and I listened to the trailer, I contacted her and said, hey, not only can I help you on my show, but I do another show where this is perfect for.


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Because this is all we do over there called Extinguish.


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So that's how Kya and I got hooked up.


David McClam

But as we all know, you know, for the time we was working with Deanna and helping her take the backlash and I was actually writing letters that was going to go to people there in her state and gonna, we was gonna advocate to have her case reopened.


David McClam

So, you know, when you think you got somebody that you can trust, portrayal comes from the places that you least expected.


David McClam

So Kaya, who was supposed to be in this for the truth, chose deception instead.


David McClam

Not only did she fail to disclose all the evidence, she intentionally withheld crucial screenshots and omitted parts of conversations that would have given a complete picture.


David McClam

This isn't just misleading, folks, is also very manipulative.


David McClam

Let's tackle the things at hand that she decided to put up there.


David McClam

But first of all, let's go back to the beginning of this.


David McClam

See, I have all of this right here.


David McClam

You should watch the person that's carrying the news.


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And if I can't get this off, I'll definitely do screenshots and put them on the website so you guys can see them.


David McClam

So now when all this happened, Kai was the first one.


David McClam

Okay.


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She was just blowing my phone up.


David McClam

She was the one that was telling me what was going on at Crime Con.


David McClam

There's several screenshots I can show you to where she wrote me and was telling me everything was going on, blah, blah, blah.


David McClam

She didn't know how close he was to James Renner, but I saw him calling on out the post about her in the Crime con group.


David McClam

I don't know if you saw it or not, but I send it to Amy and was like, I am so sorry.


David McClam

To say this, but y'all might want to leave early.


David McClam

This is when she was at crime.


David McClam

I hate that.


David McClam

So.


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So.


David McClam

But her package from us arrived.


David McClam

So she sent a package to ladonna that I think contained the book and something else.


David McClam

She actually made reference to this when she was on my show.


David McClam

And to clear up the whole show thing, yes, there was another show that is not this one.


David McClam

Okay.


David McClam

We have thought about doing a show that would have answered this to a degree, but it would have been without Odonna, and it was going to take a different point on that.


David McClam

Now, I'm going to tell you this.


David McClam

Ladonna is the one that's fighting for her life.


David McClam

She can write whatever she wants.


David McClam

So I'm going to tell you guys this again, and I got many lawyers to back this up, and I'll.


David McClam

I'll beg one more time since they keep saying it.


David McClam

If you have any proof that this is not true or that you can prove that she's read my scripts.


David McClam

Anthony Christopher, Javier Lever.


David McClam

I'm gonna say it again.


David McClam

It's 2025.


David McClam

Let's go to court.


David McClam

Oh, and by the way, I haven't been to jail yet, but I digress.


David McClam

So let's go to court.


David McClam

But she wanted to write scripts for what we were going to do.


David McClam

It was not going to be a direct podcast like this that was going to directly take out Javier leaving Anthony Christopher.


David McClam

I was going to come from a different vein.


David McClam

However, Kaya was the one that wanted to do something, and she wanted to be a part of everything.


David McClam

And so I had said yes for this particular podcast.


David McClam

And if you was to read through the screenshots that she gave you, or if she was to post the whole thing, you would see that there was no mention of.


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We're not afraid.


David McClam

There was no podcast mentioned at all by name.


David McClam

It basically just said what we was going to do.


David McClam

And at some point, yes, she would want to write a script for it.


David McClam

And being that we would not be really talking about Anthony Christopher anyways, because that's not the direction I was going, then it would have been totally fine.


David McClam

Again, her gag order is she can't say anything negative about Anthony Christopher, which was not the.


David McClam

Which was not the case.


David McClam

So as.


David McClam

I mean, dude, I have hundreds of text messages here, so I'm just scrolling through right now.


David McClam

So as you go through them.


David McClam

I said, yeah, she would want to write some of the scripts for that particular podcast.


David McClam

And she came back with that.


David McClam

She wanted to be her own.


David McClam

I said, basically, is this going to be Like a blueprint.


David McClam

Okay.


David McClam

So the blueprint would be like bullet points of whatever we were going to talk about and how we're going to lay it out.


David McClam

The way I was going to come at this before was not the way that We Are Not Afraid ended up shaping up.


David McClam

I was just going to come and take Javier Lever out at the knees.


David McClam

I was not planning on discussing Anthony Christopher at all.


David McClam

Even though throughout our text messages I did say he was part of my French an and that he needed to be dealt with.


David McClam

Yes, I've said all those things.


David McClam

I've said all those things you guys hear.


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So it ain't no secret.


David McClam

However, as time went on, I started thinking about and as the Pretend podcast went on, I started thinking about maybe this is not the right way in which we should go with this because of the fact that I needed to hit them directly now.


David McClam

This time Kaya Penfield got a new job and I sent her the trailer to we are Not Afraid Now.


David McClam

This is after.


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If you go up and you read that.


David McClam

I was trying to get rid of Kaya Penfield very gently because she started having, you know, working late nights and jobs.


David McClam

So indirectly I started saying, I don't need you anymore.


David McClam

Let me, let me get to those texts.


David McClam

Here's what I said back in June.


David McClam

Friday, June 7th at 2:09pm this is part of me trying to get rid of her because now I want to take this podcast in a different direction and I knew that she was in a job so we was going to use that.


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Which really wasn't using it because she was busy at the point.


David McClam

But here's what it says.


David McClam

Says, hey, Kaya, thinking about our conversation and I know you are busy.


David McClam

I don't want you to feel pressured to do this.


David McClam

If you don't feel you will have the time, that is fine.


David McClam

If you could help me behind the scenes with the website and stuff, that would be great.


David McClam

It would be awesome to do this with you.


David McClam

But I totally understand.


David McClam

Time constraints ball is totally in your court now.


David McClam

The behind the scenes was just running the website or putting things up that was there.


David McClam

Didn't want her to feel like she was totally ousted because let me just put this straight since I think this is where the portrayal comes from.


David McClam

She wanted to be the voice of the gay people saying that she knew that Adonna was not homophobic.


David McClam

This is the main reason why she wanted to step out and do this.


David McClam

Just to let you know that.


David McClam

Okay.


David McClam

She replied that she could start looking into it.


David McClam

First steps is going to be Buying the domain name.


David McClam

We talked about that she uses namecheap.


David McClam

And, you know, we saw what it costs.


David McClam

And then that's what I realized that basically she was going to use the same thing that I use anyway, which was Pod Page.


David McClam

That's what I use for my website.


David McClam

And it works very, very nicely.


David McClam

And then what ended up happening is she came back and she says, we won't be able to actually make the website because I just got a job and they distract me.


David McClam

So I'm in orientation.


David McClam

This still good for podcasts.


David McClam

So she's still saying she wanted to come and do the podcast.


David McClam

I said, congrats, we'll be looking to start recording right away.


David McClam

Had an interview yesterday and have another one tomorrow now.


David McClam

Some of the same interviews that I had already done or that I would.


David McClam

That I've done on this show, I was going to do also on that show.


David McClam

Right.


David McClam

So Chris Corner.


David McClam

And there's, I think, one other person that I was going to do that I said, they will still make good candidates to come over here.


David McClam

She says, thanks and perfect.


David McClam

I'll be getting my work schedule for this month, hopefully this weekend, and we'll send it over asap.


David McClam

She then said that she had got a call from the State Patrol.


David McClam

She was in the final stages of maybe qualifying for a job with them.


David McClam

So unfortunately, she didn't think that she was going to be able to co host the podcast.


David McClam

I'm so sorry.


David McClam

I will see how else I can help that I was happy about because I didn't have to continuously continue let her down.


David McClam

And then my response to that was, I will be releasing an episode shortly.


David McClam

And then I did send her the article that Dennis McCaslin wrote about the documents.


David McClam

That was it at that point.


David McClam

We Are Not Afraid was born.


David McClam

I can post all of these.


David McClam

There's nothing in here that you see this is anything about we're not Afraid.


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Nothing.


David McClam

I was going to hit Javier leaving a different way.


David McClam

Couldn't do that.


David McClam

I had to come direct at him because he was coming direct at Ladonna.


David McClam

So there's your story.


David McClam

You can believe what you want to believe.


David McClam

I really don't care.


David McClam

But I have all the text messages right here and the ones that she decided to cut out.


David McClam

And I'm sure that people over at the State Patrol would not want to know that she's part of a trolling group that is law enforcement and they take that much more seriously than anything else.


David McClam

I have friends in the law enforcement around here that got fired for more simplistic things.


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Than that.


David McClam

So I think what she should be worried about is if the state patrol down there finds out that she's partaking in a trolling group, what that could potentially do to her job.


David McClam

See, people don't think about these things when you work for the public.


David McClam

So since she withheld all of that, since she wanted to portray people, since she wanted to come and lie, let me tell you, she could not even afford to do her own cousin's case.


David McClam

She was seeking out after podcasters like myself that would take on her cousin's case because she want her cousin's case to be heard.


David McClam

A lot of them told her basically in nice tones, kick rocks, but they use statements like, I'm sorry, we don't have time.


David McClam

I'm sorry, that's not usually what we cover.


David McClam

My schedule is really bogged down.


David McClam

She has told me and ladonna herself that she couldn't get anybody else to cover it.


David McClam

She has since removed these posts, but there was even post that was made on her Facebook page about how grateful she was to ladonna myself because we're going to take on this case when nobody else wouldn't.


David McClam

And all of the evidence in which she possesses, which I still have copies of, okay, that is the crime scene photos.


David McClam

That's the.


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The checklist they use for interviews, whatever the police have.


David McClam

And she got, I have.


David McClam

She didn't even pay for that herself.


David McClam

So if she's gonna go and lie on people, why don't she tell her truth about when people try to help with her cousin's case?


David McClam

She didn't pay for herself.


David McClam

Another podcaster who felt sorry for her and felt like that she should have her cousin's evidence ponied up the money.


David McClam

Now, she won't tell me how much it was, but believe me, folks, it's in the thousands.


David McClam

The package that I got, and knowing the law, that mug went from between 2 and $5,000 on the low end to get what she got.


David McClam

There was a lot of printed stuff and a whole lot of stuff that she digitized.


David McClam

Somebody else paid that for her.


David McClam

So you want to portray the only podcaster that was gonna.


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That sat back and did anything for your case.


David McClam

The only podcaster that offered you two shows, the only podcaster that stood in the trench with you when you was getting attacked, the only podcasters that stood behind you and your podcast that the production value wasn't that great with in the first place.


David McClam

That was ladonna and myself.


David McClam

But now, for whatever reason, she wants to hop aboard and she wants to jump on the Anthony Christopher and the Javier labor bandwagon.


David McClam

Why?


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Is because you believed them when they said that I said I was going to have the Westboros Baptist Church, which I never said name of the church come and beat up drag queens.


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Is that what got your paintings in a bunch?


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Which I've already proven that that's not what I said.


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I have it clear in transcripts.


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I've done two episodes on it and I have already dispelled the police report that I was supposed to be going to jail over that they told him to kick rocks to right before the end of last year.


David McClam

What goes on from here?


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I don't really do this out of maliciousness.


David McClam

I actually like Kaya.


David McClam

But you want to call somebody out and you want to lie.


David McClam

I should.


David McClam

You should have already known about what I've been through already with this podcast and dealing with Javier Lynn, Anthony Christopher.


David McClam

I was coming for you.


David McClam

So let me be clear.


David McClam

I will not stand by and allow half truths and or deceptions to be used to twist a narrative.


David McClam

So because of this portrayal, I will be removing all episodes related to Deanna Stevenson's case from my podcast as well as extinguished.


David McClam

And here's the sad point about that.


David McClam

Since everyone's about a horrible podcast, I am if she really wanted traction on her cousin's case, she screwed that up.


David McClam

Because if you type in the name Deanna Stevenson in a Google search, I am the first one that comes up more than twice your top five true crime authors.com the tragic death of Deanna Stevenson in the Quest for Justice, true crime and authors.com unraveling the mystery behind Deanna Stevenson's tragic death.


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Then there's a Pensacola News Journal State won't file charges in Fairfield Drive.


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Stand your ground.


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Then there's a tick tock Deanna Stevenson's case.


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Then there's Apple Stand out ground the Deanna Stevenson Case Podcast.


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I trump her own podcast on her own cousin.


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Which means if you guys don't anything by analytics.


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If somebody's looking for information on Deanna Stevenson's case and they type in her name, they always click on the first five links.


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Which means that true crime and authors would be the first one they see, the first one they click on and the first first exposure they get.


David McClam

But not anymore.


David McClam

I feel bad for Deanna Stevenson.


David McClam

I feel bad for whoever her family is that maybe had nothing to do with this.


David McClam

My whole thought behind this was to try to get Deanna Stevenson's case reopened to have it looked at from the evidence that I Seen the things that Deanna had written before she passed away.


David McClam

However, if I'm getting a lot of this evidence, other than what I got in writing from the police, from Kaya, and Kaya is lying, then I have to assume that everything else that she told me could also be a lie.


David McClam

Just like I did with Alicia Lockhart, and you guys didn't like that neither.


David McClam

It's a hypothesis.


David McClam

One part of the hypothesis is wrong.


David McClam

The whole hypothesis is wrong.


David McClam

It is a lie.


David McClam

So I refuse to be associated with a situation where transparency is compromised and integrity is thrown aside.


David McClam

And for those of you who have supported the work I've done on the Deanna Stevenson's case, I appreciate you.


David McClam

But if we're going to stand for truth, we have to stand all the way.


David McClam

And that means cutting ties with anything or anyone who tries to distort reality for their own gain.


David McClam

By the time you guys hear this, any trace of Deanna Stevenson's case on my podcast and or Extinguish will be gone.


David McClam

I have washed my hands of it.


David McClam

Good luck to her family members.


David McClam

But you have a family member that has lied on me, and more on me than ladonna.


David McClam

You don't lie on me and get away with it.


David McClam

My platform I offered to you free of charge when everybody else wanted to charge you to do so.


David McClam

So now is it really true?


David McClam

Did Ollie Plunkett really killed Deanna?


David McClam

Was it really in cold blood did her there?


David McClam

Well, we know Ollie Plunkett did.


David McClam

She admitted that she pulled the trigger.


David McClam

But did her ex love have anything to do with it?


David McClam

Is the house exactly what you say that it is?


David McClam

I don't know anymore because I got a lot of information from you.


David McClam

So since you want to lie and betray people, here's where you are.


David McClam

And I was the biggest podcast out there next to your own that was covering this case.


David McClam

And you know, believe me, just go and do.


David McClam

Even though mine will be gone.


David McClam

So once I remove this and you do type Indiana Stevenson true crime models, 20 people will not show up.


David McClam

But just for y'all, I'll go ahead and take a screenshot of it right now so you can see exactly that I'm not lying to you.


David McClam

But now you have to rely on, well, if you believe her or not, her own reporting on the case, which is now questionable.


David McClam

All right, so that's it for.


David McClam

For Kyle Pinfield, like I've promised you, that's what we're going to talk about.


David McClam

And that's what we just did.


David McClam

Now I'm sure she has Rebuttal, Whatever.


David McClam

She should be ashamed of herself and hopefully for her sake, nobody from law enforcement catch wind of this.


David McClam

I'm not turning anybody in.


David McClam

I have not.


David McClam

But everybody has ears.


David McClam

And when these kind of things happen, law enforcement starts to pick up on them.


David McClam

Especially when somebody like Anthony Christopher Javier Living made a big stink about it and she's all over a Reddit thread.


David McClam

And I can prove the that the post comes directly from her because I have the exact same text message she called herself posting it becomes hairy.


David McClam

But let's talk about what is next.


David McClam

There was a rumor going around while I was gone that stated that I had been to Arkansas three times since I've started this podcast.


David McClam

My first question is how the hell do you guys know where I'm at?


David McClam

There was no social media post that was supposed to say I was there.


David McClam

You didn't hear me say I was going to Arkansas.


David McClam

I don't know how you just arrive at that, but I bet you I do know.


David McClam

I bet you I do know.


David McClam

I bet you I do know is a more of the made up stuff that you guys like to say.


David McClam

Or maybe Anthony Christopher showed up and said, oh my gosh, Dave's in Arkansas.


David McClam

Let me tell you, that's the case.


David McClam

He's lying.


David McClam

I've never been to Arkansas a day in my life as of yet and I can prove that because I'm the most geotracked person that you know.


David McClam

My wife and my kids, they have me on find my all the time and my job.


David McClam

Well, I have to get paid mileage.


David McClam

So because of that I have a tracker that runs on my phone 24 7.


David McClam

I never turn it off because I figured if I ever turned it off that I was going to forget to turn it back on.


David McClam

And that is what helped me keep up with my mileage.


David McClam

The name of the app you guys want to check it out for yourself is called Mile iq.


David McClam

I've used this tracker for the last several years and not only does it tell me how far I went, but it gives me full addresses and states and I can even send you the itinerary that I had when I was in Texas.


David McClam

So no, I have not been to Arkansas.


David McClam

You can start making that lie up, but that's all about to change.


David McClam

In a very short few weeks, I'll be heading to Arkansas for a series of exclusive interviews that I will shake things up with.


David McClam

Yeah, I'm gonna do what a real journalist does.


David McClam

See, Javier Leyva and Anthony Christopher sold you guys down the river with a boat full of Lies.


David McClam

They said Oasis was messy.


David McClam

They said Oasis was dirty.


David McClam

They said they had more women in there than they should.


David McClam

But the one thing that neither one of them ever did, and it's sad because Anthony Christopher is like an hour away, is they never went there.


David McClam

They never stopped in for a surprise visit.


David McClam

They didn't come with some cameras.


David McClam

They didn't come with some microphones.


David McClam

They don't.


David McClam

They didn't go in there, say, hey, I know this is a surprise visit, but if anybody wants to talk to me, I'm here.


David McClam

Don't try to do it now.


David McClam

Javier, you had your shot.


David McClam

He's just gonna be looked at.


David McClam

Oh, he's only out here because David's coming.


David McClam

Yep, I'm coming.


David McClam

And I will be talking with Oasis of northwest Arkansas.


David McClam

They are for anybody who don't know, an organization that has been doing incredible work to help those in need.


David McClam

I'll be talking with people who have been hurt by John Allen from Lake Hills Church.


David McClam

You know, the dude that they hold in such high esteem.


David McClam

And how d you talk about the dead, and he was such a great man.


David McClam

Well, I have people that decided they wanted to talk to me and to give me their story and to set all y'all straight.


David McClam

And these people deserve to have their voices heard since the crack journalist himself hasn't went and done it.


David McClam

I'll also be talking about individuals who have been affected by Patty Rush, Anthony Christopher, and others.


David McClam

These people that I just mentioned have inflicted harm and gotten away with it for far too long.


David McClam

So here's how this is going to work.


David McClam

I am going to Arkansas in the next few weeks.


David McClam

Nobody knows when that is.


David McClam

I'm doing that on purpose.


David McClam

Now, before you guys want to go out here and get your panties in a bunch, I'll just go ahead and put out there.


David McClam

Yes, at some point, of course, I am going to meet up with the one and only Ladonna Huffrey after I have popped in and made my surprise visit.


David McClam

After that, I will be meeting up with her and we can continue the conversation with some of these other people.


David McClam

Even they don't know when I'm exactly showing up, because I said, in a few weeks, I'm gonna jump in and surprise people.


David McClam

Y'all can say, well, he's announcer.


David McClam

They gonna know.


David McClam

Okay, well, let me tell you what that would entail if this is such a crooked organization.


David McClam

I said, a few weeks.


David McClam

That could be in the next two weeks.


David McClam

That could be in the next five weeks.


David McClam

That could be in the next eight weeks.


David McClam

It could be February could be March, April, May, June, could be any month of the year.


David McClam

So that means that they would have to be on top of their game all month if they were cricket.


David McClam

I just want to point that out.


David McClam

That's hard for cricket organizations to do, by the way, because that's a whole coordinated effort with the things that Anthony Christopher has accused them of doing.


David McClam

You can't just take women that you've put in there.


David McClam

Let's what they say, I 30, 40 women or something like that.


David McClam

You can't hide that many women away quickly without you knowing somebody's coming.


David McClam

Also, just to put this out here, and I hope talk to some of them.


David McClam

You do know that there are state agencies that drop in the Oasis of northwest Arkansas all the time, unannounced, right?


David McClam

Even down to the attorney general that they tried to seek on them.


David McClam

So there is people that just showed up.


David McClam

I got.


David McClam

I saw an article where Dennis McCaslin just showed up one day and they opened the doors up to him and said, all right, I know you're on the noun, but come on, let me show you the whole facility.


David McClam

He wrote a whole article about it.


David McClam

Now, when I am there and when I have done what I need to do, anybody who wants to meet me, because I plan on being there for a few days, I got all these people to talk to.


David McClam

So it's not going to be a trip where I'm just going to show up and then I'm going to be gone.


David McClam

I'm going to be there for a little bit, for a few days at least.


David McClam

I will say it to y'all again.


David McClam

If you want to meet me, Anthony Christopher, Javier, you want to fly out and meet me, I will let you know exactly the dates that I'm there after I show up at Oasis.


David McClam

I will tell you the beginning date.


David McClam

Well, the date after I meet with them, but I'll tell you the date that I am there then.


David McClam

And I will tell you in the dates in which I'm going to leave.


David McClam

So here is your invitation.


David McClam

If you decide that you want to meet up with me, all you got to do is send me an email.


David McClam

Hell, I think Javier Leave even has my phone number.


David McClam

You can send me a text message.


David McClam

You let me know where you would like to meet at.


David McClam

I'll meet you in any public place that you wish.


David McClam

I will have my cameras with me.


David McClam

I'll even bring my recording device and we can sit down and have a conversation.


David McClam

And you can present to me all of the things that you say is wrong.


David McClam

I'll Let you present your case.


David McClam

You can tell me all the things that you said about ladonna Humphrey is true.


David McClam

You can present me your evidence on that.


David McClam

I'm happy to listen.


David McClam

I'll give you my rebuttal.


David McClam

I'll record the whole thing.


David McClam

I'll post it.


David McClam

Now, before you guys want to go out and lie, let me say what this is not going to be.


David McClam

And let me say this frankly so that everybody can hear it.


David McClam

I didn't invite you out to beat you up.


David McClam

Did not say you was going to get beat up.


David McClam

Did not threaten you, did not say one word of violence.


David McClam

Offered to meet you in a public place, Said that I would have cameras as well as audio equipment.


David McClam

So therefore nobody can go back and and lie and say I showed up and did whatever you want to say that I did.


David McClam

So I am coming with no type of violence in my heart.


David McClam

But if you want to meet, if you guys want to prove me wrong about everything I said about the two of you, that you guys are just a bunch of liars that has no proof and no evidence.


David McClam

And because you and your keyboard warriors don't have the guts to come out and meet me face to face and to say the things to my face directly with proof that you've said about me on the podcast, show up.


David McClam

But I'll bet everything I have in the bank dang gonna come.


David McClam

Because it's easier to tell a lie about someone or to someone when you're not confronted.


David McClam

But you hear it and your whole audience hears it.


David McClam

Right now.


David McClam

I'm giving you the opportunity.


David McClam

Don't even gotta come by virtual screen.


David McClam

I'll be in Arkansas.


David McClam

Oh, and by the way, if I am going to jail, send the police because now you don't have to come to California to get me.


David McClam

By the way, folks, I've supposed to been in jail.


David McClam

What is it now?


David McClam

Six, seven months ago?


David McClam

Still here.


David McClam

They're not working with anybody.


David McClam

Ain't nobody going to arrest anybody.


David McClam

I've already dispelled their little police report.


David McClam

They keep lying to you and you guys just keep buying into the rhetoric.


David McClam

So there you guys have it.


David McClam

I will be in Arkansas.


David McClam

Sometimes in the next several weeks, I will pop in and see oasis of Northern Arkansas without them knowing when I am coming.


David McClam

I will record everything that I do there.


David McClam

I will walk through with my phone or my other cameras and I will record every room for you.


David McClam

I will record every dining room for you.


David McClam

I will record everything the oasis of northwest Arkansas will allow me to.


David McClam

Here's what I'm betting They're going to do.


David McClam

I'm going to show up and say, hey, I'm David McClan and we're not afraid.


David McClam

I just wanted to come down here and do what no other journalist has done.


David McClam

They've accused you guys of hiding tax records.


David McClam

They've accused you guys of overstaffing.


David McClam

You have women that has a grudge with you, who has accused you of running a filthy place.


David McClam

They have accused you of booting women out.


David McClam

They've accused you of having no process.


David McClam

So I have come almost 1200 miles just to see for myself and do what a true journalist should have done from the beginning, which is to come pop in on you and see if it's true or not.


David McClam

Is it possible that I can get a tour of the place?


David McClam

That's what they're going to hear from me when I get there.


David McClam

Now, that's just that part.


David McClam

Where does this podcast go after I return from Arkansas?


David McClam

Whenever that is, you guys will know for a fact.


David McClam

Once I get there, do my Oasis run like I promised.


David McClam

I'll release the dates if I got to do a quick episode and say, hey, here's the dates.


David McClam

I'm here.


David McClam

I'll release them now.


David McClam

I'm not on Twitter anymore.


David McClam

I am more on Blue sky at this point.


David McClam

Make sure you go to Blue sky and follow we're not Afraid if and I'll post it there when I'm in Arkansas and when I'm going to leave.


David McClam

Anthony Christopher and or Javier labor are both.


David McClam

I hope to see you, I hope to meet you, and I hope that you want to sit down and we can do this and put this to rest.


David McClam

What is going to happen with the rest of the show?


David McClam

So you've heard this episode.


David McClam

I have about one more episode that I'm doing on exposing the witch hunt.


David McClam

Ladonna Humphrey, and then I'm going to close out this season.


David McClam

However, I will be back after I come back from Arkansas and I will give you the recordings there and what I endured and what I saw and that will a hundred percent end it.


David McClam

But I'm gonna go ahead and end it now and then I'll bring that back and then reclose it because I have yet another case in which I need to focus my attention on.


David McClam

Just wait.


David McClam

There's a lot more to come and it's going to be powerful.


David McClam

Speaking of what's to come, let's talk about season two of We Are Not Afraid.


David McClam

Yeah, you guys.


David McClam

They all was done, didn't you?


David McClam

I told you I was gonna figure out.


David McClam

I was gonna do after I got done with Donald Humphrey's case.


David McClam

Well, here it is.


David McClam

I've been watching closely as certain individuals try to rewrite history, spread falsehoods and manipulate facts.


David McClam

And one of those people, Javier Leiba, this is someone who has pushed outright lies about innocent people.


David McClam

He's damaged reputations and twisted narratives to fit his agenda.


David McClam

And it's time for the truth to be told.


David McClam

So in season two, we're going to expose the lies, the distortions, and the people behind them.


David McClam

No more hiding, no more running.


David McClam

And if you thought season one was fearless, you haven't seen anything yet, man.


David McClam

And with the way the political stands is right now, I'm in a fighting mood.


David McClam

And I'm in the mood to help get people, get justice from people that lies on other people, like Javier Leva does.


David McClam

So stick around.


David McClam

You don't know what it is yet.


David McClam

Oh, but season two is coming and it's going to be powerful.


David McClam

So I want to thank each and every one of you who continues to support this podcast, who stands for truth and who refuses to be silenced.


David McClam

We are in this together.


David McClam

Betrayal won't stop the truth from coming out.


David McClam

Lies won't silence those who fight for justice, and manipulation won't rewrite reality.


David McClam

So stay tuned because the truth is just getting started.


David McClam

And always remember, even if it doesn't seem like it right now, love will always conquer hate.


David McClam

I'll catch you guys on the next one.


David McClam

To contact us and to see all of the evidence presented today's show, make sure you click on the link tree link in the show notes.


David McClam

We Are Not Afraid is hosted and Produced by David McClam Photography is done by the talented Connie Block of SLB Photography.


David McClam

Intro and outro music Missing Evidence by Mark Fabian.


David McClam

Thank you for tuning in and we'll catch you on the next one.